Bravo ! Walter...
I'm going to send that to a few people. (and give the credit to you)
Bravo ! Walter...
I'm going to send that to a few people. (and give the credit to you)
after you left the jws, what was the first worldly thing you did?
the day after my last meeting, i got really really drunk.
After 5 years, alone and divorced (tho' not scripturally) I went to some nude bars, then later started dating "worldly" women.
I'm happily married to one of them now!
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i wonder who the noe-jehovah s.o.b is that's walking my daughter down the isle?.
bryan
(((( Bryan ))))
I know this is a hurt...that keeps on giving hurt, as I have had the exact same thing done to me 2 times. I wasn't even told of the happy day until later...my JW, X-wife orchestrated that loving Christian act. When I re-married to a non-JW, not ONE JW relative or friend came to my wedding or has ever even congratulated either of us. That was over half my family.
But, I don't mean to bring more gloom. The good news is neither of those two kids go to the Kingdom Hall any longer. One of them has renewed our relationship...because I NEVER stopped contacting them and letting them know, I loved them...that is just about the only thing you can do. The pain you feel ? You may not SEE it, but, it is hurting them too. This shunning goes against the very nature of human beings, it hurts them, because deep down they feel how wrong it is.
Bryan, don't give up hope, it make take time, even years, just never, never give up on them.
You can help teach them ...real love.
on my way home last night from work i ran into a prominent elder from brooklyn.
this guy is always featured at circuit assemblies and his family was presented as the model witiness family in the 80's.
well imagine my shock and surprise when i realized that this dub had just bought a lottery ticket.
I wonder if a JW does win the lottery...will they get in front of the cameras like so many...and thank their God ?
i told my mom that i tried to commit suicide and she asked me who was going to have a bible study with my son.
there was no other word's from her other than that.
not even a reaction.
One thing that was really helpful to me and I know for others here, was counseling. And possibly anti-depressant medication. Hopefully you have insurance that will help.
I had no idea that I was suffering from Major Depression when I attempted suicide, I know in my case going to a psychiatrist was very much discouraged among Witnesses, after all I "must be spiritually" sick and the thing I needed to do was "get busy" in the "preaching work" and "devote myself whole-souled to Jehovah." That's all that was really 'wrong' with me.
The 'talk therapy' and meds and stopping meetings is really what helped me. I don't know your circumstances, but, don't be shy about asking for professional help, these people know how to help. My doctor had had experience with others Witnesses and we lived in a small town.
Whatever pressure is put upon you guys by the JW's will be tough to swallow, I have gone thru a lot of shunning, because I will not conform to life 'in a jw box'. After a while, it will bother you less and you'll see even more how un-loving and un-Christ-like the JW's really are.
Best wishes for you and you family.
i told my mom that i tried to commit suicide and she asked me who was going to have a bible study with my son.
there was no other word's from her other than that.
not even a reaction.
35 years I was a witness. I've been 'fading' for about 5 years. I basically got sick of it all, I could not stand listening to bros. on the stand saying how 'loving' and 'helpful' the spiritual leaders in our congregation were. My family was having problems and I knew first hand that they were almost worse than no help at all. They did almost nothing. Yet every meeting night, they taught us to 'rely' on them, they would help 'carry your load'.
i told my mom that i tried to commit suicide and she asked me who was going to have a bible study with my son.
there was no other word's from her other than that.
not even a reaction.
Hey you don't need to have a 'label', you're a visitor...Welcome !
It's a sad life isn't it, but amazingly I feel great.
I remember how scary it was 8 months ago when I made my first post here. It WAS sad, in a way because it was an 'ending' of a part of my life. But, I felt great, too because I knew I had to make that first hard step.
i told my mom that i tried to commit suicide and she asked me who was going to have a bible study with my son.
there was no other word's from her other than that.
not even a reaction.
Tim, I hope things are OK. There are alot of good people here to talk to. I have been there.
my mother called me in a tizzy saying that her friend heard that letters were read and a talk was given in 2 different congregations saying that the society's new policy is that if a elder, m.s.
or pioneer attends an "unequaled" wedding----they will be removed from their exemplary positions because they are "disloyal to jehovah god"........what do you think about this one?
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I can say this from 1st hand experience: I remarried last year to a non-JW, I am inactive, but, not DF/DA (yet). About 1/2 of my family is JW, with elders, missionaries, pioneers, pawns, etc. NOT ONE JW person attended our wedding, gave presents, or congratulations...nothing.
I was also told, this was only because...I "was becoming un-evenly yoked with an unbeliever and should stop touching the un-clean 'thing'." This truly hurt my wife and I. There was a big arguement about it, they were expecting I might get DF over this, so they started shunning us even before our civil marriage (practice makes perfect ya' know...)
The Elders among my relatives never said a word to me, they speak thru their wives. Even if the Society is not "official" about this, we all know about the "un-written rules" they work well for them.
Shamus, what you said about this tact being 'destructive' is true and it will ring the bell that signals their demise. My non-jw relatives and friends that were there, were all asking "Where are your sisters, cousins, aunts and children?" You could see the hatred of this religion well up inside of them, when they realized the "why"...
Oh, yeah...the WTS days are numbered. They alienate their own everyday with this asinine shunning...it's the only way they know how to keep them 'in the box'.
so it is well known that this religion has spies...my mom used spies at my school to get information about me.
many haveposted their own experiences about spies.
i want to know more about it on a large scale.. like, "watchers" at a convention?
Jst2laws had a post where he was going thru a JC, they asked him point blank about "the internet, the 'borg' and if he was a poster on JWD named Jst2laws "...!
It seems obvious there was and is some spying going on...