If this is your idea of perfection...I'll take death.
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What would you say to Jesus?
by YoYoMama inif at the end when jesus comes to make justice on earth and it turns out that jehovah's witnesses was the one true path, what would you say to him?.
notice i said if...
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How about 10 favourite albums (er, cd's)
by amicus inhow about your 10 all time favourite cd's.
mine:.
beach boy's -pet sounds.
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Pouring rain, gusting winds...Perfect day for JW.com!
DB,
My brother really got a kick out of the Peruvian pipers (in the streets of SF) when he came out here for a visit last June. He told me that they reminded him of the Tuvan throat singers-and then proceeded to tell me about throat singing. I dutifully listened (although I hear them about once a week on my little local independent radio station), and then steered the conversation onto the topic of Buddism (which is where he was heading anyways-yea, I know, I'm such a good brother!).
Have you heard Willie's (Nelson) lastest cd? Milk Cow Blues? His cover of "Black Night" is one of the best I've heard. "Nobody cares about me/Ain't even got a friend/Baby's gone and left me/When will my troubles end/Black night is fallin'/Oh how I hate to be alone/I keep cryin' for my baby/But now another day is gone". Who says cowboys can't sing the blues?
When I got home from my extended stint in Jamaica I had to buy Steely Dan's "Gaucho". For the first time in my life I could relate to "hey nineteen"--and that's all I'm going to say about that (here, anyways ;-)).
I kinda strayed from J.T. after "Sweet Baby James". A few years ago one of my gfriends asked me to go with her to see him in concert, I reluctantly agreed and was treated to one of the better concerts I've ever seen/heard. I had no idea James was such a superb entertainer.
UB,
Back in the days of vinyl I did my best to wear out "The songs of Leonard Cohen". We'd get home after a long day at the beach-sunburned, salt encrusted, exhausted, sand-in-hair, and lounge around listening to Leonard (and "Spirit"-a local band)-nothing else really seemed to fit our mood. I haven't heard him in years...but I still know the songs...Suzanne, Sisters of Mercy, Hey, that's no way to say goodbye...
Who can listen to Elvis Costello and not want to hear him again...and again...and again...? Pump It Up (whadid he jus' say? turn it up?...ok, sure), Temptation, This Town (P. McCartney on bass, Roger McGuinn on 12 string, and Jim Keltner on skins...whaaaat?), Let Him Dangle, Watching the Detectives, Man Called Uncle (HEY!?), Riot Act, Possession, God's Comic ("I've been wading through all this unbelievable junk and wondering if I should have given the world to the monkeys"), Oliver's Army--aw nevermind this list is gettin' waaay too long (and I've only just begun...). I always took Elvis C. for one of those "expect the unexpected kind-of-guys"...but "Painted from Memory" with Burt Bacharach? Hmmmmmmm, it took me a while to get my ears around that cd...but it's really starting to grow on me now.
Cris Issak? Well, we cal-lee-4-yunz love da local boys. I don't listen to him as much now as I used to, but I find myself draggin' out the "Criss Issak" cd to listen to his cover of the Yardbirds classic "Heart Full of Soul" fairly often. Graduation Day from "Forever Blue" somehow reminds me of Springsteen's "Nebraska" cd. Uh oh, did I say Springsteen? "In Candy's room, there are pictures of her heroes on the wall, but to get to get to Candy's room, you gotta walk the darkness of Candy's hall,.....She says, Baby if you wanna be wild, you got a lot to learn, close your eyes, Let them melt, let them fire, let them burn..."
Prisca,
Here I am trying to focus on songs that emphasize personal growth and exploration and you hit me with romantic lyrics! Gulp!!! Achilles taught me the importance of wearing sturdy boots...but somehow my heel is still constantly being bruised.
Well, I'm going to take the moral high ground here (just to prove that I can do it, you know) and counter with something by N. Finn from his solo cd (released whilst his bro' was toying with "Crowded House").
BIRDS SWIM
FISH FLY
I turn one way and the wind blows me over
I turn another way and it’s holding me up
Luck has nothing to do with it
Things change when you learn to loosen your grip
I think one way and the future is desperate
I think another way everything is in sight
Trees bend so branches don’t have to break
We mend the wounds of our last mistake
Birds swim fish do fly
Proud man begins to cry
Birds swim fish do fly
Things change so why can’t I
I live one way holding on to the fence post
I live another way sliding off into space
Each life is loosely assembled
Inside the molecules tremble
Birds swim fish do fly
Proud man begins to cry
Birds swim fish do fly
Things change so why can’t I
Little by little we die
Washed up on the beach of betrayal
How did the Mesonyx become a whale
Birds swim fish do fly
Proud man begins to cry
Birds swim fish do fly
Things change so why can’t I
Things change
Fish fly
Why can’t I
TW,
Hi! I'm dying to hear the music listed here that is new to me. :-) And I agree...so much music, so little time. I really think we should live forever. :-(
My new Cash song-to-sing: "I keep a close watch on this heart of mine, I keep my eyes wide open all the time...."
But my current favorite cd is the soundtrack from "O, brother where art thou". Great movie too!Wellllll, this has gotten way too long...time to shuddap...
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Thanks for the Memories!
by LDH inguys and gals,.
thanks for all of the great posts on this site.. it's time for me to stop visiting and posting now.... i'm not saying i'll never be back, but i'm gonna take a nice looooong break.. i've enjoyed knowing you tons!.
for those of you who wanna write me via email, please continue to do so.
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Lisa,
My schedule has kept me away from this DB for far too long. You are one of the many here whom I miss. It would seem I have also missed some posts I would have liked to respond to...
As you know, I will always take offense when unkind remarks are made about you or your family. I know you are very capable of defending yourself-nevertheless I gladly stand by your side my friend.
I am sorry that you feel the need to leave...hopefully you'll be back soon.
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80's Lyrics Quiz
by Seven inname the song and artist-it hasn't been that long ago.
example: been workin, so hard.
i'm punchin, my card.footloose, kenny loggins.. 1. don't drink, don't smoke, what do ya do?.
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25.Your feet are going to be on the ground, your head is there to move you around.
For days now it's been all I could do to keep from using "feet and head metaphors". I have tried singing this phrase to melody after melody after...
THANK YOU for posting the answers. I'll go play Stand now and pray to REM for forgiveness for not immediately answering this one.Edited by - amicus on 28 February 2001 19:22:56
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How openminded are you now?
by DannyBear injudgemental and closeminded were exact descriptions of my former jw self.. recently on another forum, someone posted a cartoon depicting the character urinating on the bible.
i had an immediate revulsion and concluded this was not appropriate, letting the poster know my thoughts.
other's on the forum did not see it as i did.
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I'm new to this environment. Although I've been wired into the net for many years, I never participated in a DB before doing so here in December of last year. My viewpoint may not be the norm or even valid in a cyber community.
I have very strong opinions about human interaction. I think it's natural (and functional) to have consideration for others feelings. It has been my observation that in this virtual environment anonymity is exploited. I hear things said on this DB that I NEVER hear in my fleshly daily contact with others. I think the reasons for this are varied and unique with each occurence. I tend to group these outbursts into three catagories: 1. immaturity, 2. anger, and 3. cowardice.
I feel that I have been guilty of 1 and 2, while participating on this board. I would like to think that anyone I have offended has forgiven me because I have demonstrated that I'm willing to accept responsibility for my actions, which include apologizing when necessary and changing when warranted.
One of the most impressive posts I've read here in a while was by Somebody who made a public apology for something she said. I didn't read the offending remark and have no idea what was involved. The humanity she displayed is a model for us all.I take offense at someone peeing on a Bible (or the Torah, or the Book of Morman, etc.), burning my country's flag (although I do not respect my country's government), defacing my labor union's insignia, or any other object that is revered. Why? Because this behaviour is usually intended to be offensive!
When do these things usually occur? Most often in mobs...now, sometimes in cyberspace. I view these actions as cowardly. If you want to impress me; do them when I am present in the flesh, one on one...then we can take the next step.
DannyBear,
I read Xandit's thread. I didn't respond. I didn't think it worthy of a response. The bear takes no notice of the lone ant scurrying from underneath the log he has just overturned.
Xandit,
Your views are often criticized here...I don't know how I would react in this environment. I know you appreciate the value of confronting the one who has offended you privately...first. We follow this rule because most often offense is not intended. Rarely is a public expose necessary. I often make mistakes...I don't think I'm alone.
Perhaps you don't need this lecture. This isn't intended to be a condemnation of your actions. As an inactive Witness living among non-Witnesses I learned what it was like to be alone. I wonder if you, with your unique viewpoint, are learning the same lesson? -
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80's Lyrics Quiz
by Seven inname the song and artist-it hasn't been that long ago.
example: been workin, so hard.
i'm punchin, my card.footloose, kenny loggins.. 1. don't drink, don't smoke, what do ya do?.
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Is this a timed quiz? 'Cause I know more...they're just on the tip of my tongue.
4. Modern Love/ D. Bowie
8. I ain't missing you/ x-lead singer of the Babys(?)
19. artist is Talking Heads
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How about 10 favourite albums (er, cd's)
by amicus inhow about your 10 all time favourite cd's.
mine:.
beach boy's -pet sounds.
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The subject of Aussie bands reminds me of one of my favorites; although Split Enz/Crowded House were originally from New Zealand-they are often associated with Australia where they migrated and then earned recognition. I constantly meet people who have never been exposed to their compositions (with the exception of that overplayed aerobics room favorite "World where you live?"; "Great song, huh?"--"Yea! I love to workout to it."--"Have you ever heard anything else by the Finn brothers?"--"Who are they? "You mean that band does other songs?"--"Oh yeah, lots of 'em, do you know what that song is really about...)
and I always leave converts in my wake...SIX MONTHS IN A LEAKY BOAT (T. Finn and Split Enz)
When I was a young boy, I wanted to sail around the world
That's the life for me, living on the sea
Spirit of a sailor, circumnavigates the globe
The lust of a pioneer, will acknowledge no frontier
I remember you by, thunderclap in the sky
Lightning flash, tempers flare, 'round the horn if you dare
I just spent six months in a leaky boat
Lucky just to keep afloat
Aotearoa, rugged individual, glisten like a pearl
At the bottom of the world
The tyranny of distance, didn't stop the cavalier
So why should it stop me, I'll conquer and stay free
Ah c'mon all you lads, let's forget and forgive
There's a world to explore, tales to tell back on shore
I just spent six months in a leaky boat
Six months in a leaky boat
Ship-wrecked love can be cruel
Don't be fooled by her kind
There's a wind in my sails
Will protect and prevail
I just spent six months in a leaky boat
Nothing to it leaky boat.
(My leaving-the-WTS theme)Now, the Clash on the other hand....."THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN!...Ring, ring it's seven AM, move yourself to "Go" again. Cold water in the face, brings you back to this awful place..."
Grunt,
On the subject of prisons, I feel compassion for those who are wrongly imprisoned. The men that are housed in the cells I described are for the most part human in appearance only. This compound is extremely expensive to build and maintain. The state only houses men (and at some sites women) here when they are completely unmanageable and can't be trusted to interact with the average killers and rapists found in the normal level 4 yard. Lots of interesting things to consider and discuss here...do I see another thread on the horizon? -
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JW's -tree huggers worst enemy
by TR inmuch of the work i do is at vacant, repossessed, and abandoned houses.
almost without exception, i find wt literature that was "placed" there.
what a disingenuous way for a jw to get rid of wt rags.
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Sadly, I took them to the dump. Maybe I could have recycled them. I don't have a bird, so I can't line a bird cage. I could have saved them for winter to burn in the fireplace, I guess.
Well I have a cat but no kitty litter box...give them to the neighbors to line their pet hamsters cage? Wipe the oil off my car's engine dipstick? Wash windows with them? Toilet paper?
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Tales from the Couch
by Seven ini asked my therapist if it is possible for a patient to be re-traumatized during the course of treatment.
confronting memories over and over again.
painting mental images even more graphic to replace the vague ones i once had-is this a good thing?
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Larc, mommy, & Prisca,
Sometimes I write things and post them…sometimes I delete them. Sometimes I think before acting…at times my decisions are totally unfettered by the thought process.
This was one of those unfettered postings-and…3:00 AM the next morning I came wide awake hoping I hadn’t said, done, suggested, blah, blah, blah, anything that could be taken the wrong way. When I finally stumbled to my PC to see if I was going to have to do battle once there, I was relieved to see your supportive comments. Thanks, for helping me slip back into a blissful stupor that morning.
Seven,
What I enjoyed most about “A case of you” appearing in your story wasn’t realized until later; when I read your post about Joni’s “Court and Spark” being one of your fav’s. I just chuckled and nodded my head thinking how appropriate it was for me to use that song as the sound track.
I just finished a Sara McLaughlin binge, which was preceded by a Joni Mitchell binge…
I’ve haven’t heard any of Tori Amos’ work…not yet. Can one binge on the music of Tori Amos????
I’ve been a fan of Joni’s since hearing “Night in the City-from Songs to a Seagull”
I dated this woman for a while who was constantly amazing me with her talents. She was a writer who supplemented her income by selling short stories to magazines; she was a silversmith and made me this cool necklace which strangers constantly noticed and complimented; she made me a shirt out of a wild African print material that never got complimented (but-I-liked-it-anyway).
The first few weeks of our relationship I would go to her house downtown ‘cause there is a lot more happenin’ in the City than the semi-rural burbs where I live (this is the part where “Night in the City” is supposed to play).
Eventually she came over to my place and after stepping inside saw my guitar sitting on its stand in the living room. “You have a Guitar!” she said, inclining her hand towards my Martin, “Do you mind?” “No, course not, help yourself.” I replied grinning.
She sat down, picked up the guitar, checking it for tune and launched into “I Don’t Know Where I Stand”, sounding and playing as much like Joni as anyone could.
“Funny day, looking for laughter and finding it there
Sunny day, braiding wild flowers and leaves in my hair
Picked up a pencil and wrote “I love you” in my finest hand
Wanted to send it, but I don’t know where I stand
Telephone, even the sound of your voice is still new
All alone in California and talking to you
And feeling too foolish and strange to say the words that I had planned
I guess it’s too early, ‘cause I don’t know where I stand
Crickets call, courting their ladies in star-dappled green
Thickets tall, until the morning comes up like a dream
All muted and misty, so drowsy now I’ll take what sleep I can
I know that I miss you, but I don’t know where I stand”
Needless to say, that song became one of my favorites. And still, to this day, when I hear it my eyes begin to glaze over and my brain starts to turn to mush until I can find some hard object to rap my head against a few times, bringing myself back… -
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Who's to blame?
by ozziepost inwhen viv mouritz , former branch coordinator in australia, addressed the special meeting of sydney and surrounding area congregations at the superdome last weekend, he blamed the young witnesses who were leaving "the truth" for the drop in numbers in australia.. at the service meeting this week in one sydney congregation it was announced by a bethel elder that the elders have been told (as if they didn't know already!
) that 2,000 have left "the truth" in the past two years in australia.
this typical congregation of 120 publishers has lost 19 inactive since 1999.. the march 2001 issue of kingdom ministry (australian edition) gives the number of publishers for december as 58,426, pioneers 3,315 and 19 baptized.. in dec '98 there were 58,706 pubs,and in dec '99 there were 58,000.. with 1,600-1,800 being baptized each year, there is indeeed a 2,000 shortfall.. so, who's to blame?
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Sin with Zin? Dandy Candy? Tipsy Bear? Good Shaggin' Sheila?
I just got in with a copy of M. Python's The Holy Grail 'n wuz about to slip it into the VCR when my 'puter beckoned.
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