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  Goethe to the Rescue

  by Maximus in

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  this is especially for farkel, whose good name has been stolen but who has not been robbed of the affection so very many of us have for him.. recently we've been treated to philosophy that has been a bit opaque to many.

  i thought i'd expose you to the german philosopher johann wolfgang von goethe (sounds somewhat like gert.uh).

  he really makes sense most times, once in awhile i think him out to lunch.

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  Farkel, Farkel,

  Lemme hear you sparkle.

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  GB Admits It Has No Answers, Blood

  by Maximus in

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  "in contrast with humans, who have a limited life span, jehovah never feels pressured by time to reveal his secrets prematurely.

  this fact should prevent us from becoming impatient when certain bible questions cannot presently be explained to our satisfaction.

  "modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear.

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  <My grandmother is in the hospital right now and the WT Liasons are there

  The grim enforcers who abuse just about as much as the pedophiles. Some of them can barely read, but they sure behave as experts. You have my sympathy.

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  Will the WT defend by default?

  by Jim Lad in

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  hi, folks, my wife is taking legal action in alberta against her pedophile stepfather who denied everything (when reappointed a ms), and since made an elder despite "unprovable accusations".. will, the society automatically step in to make a defense just because he's an elder?

  we already had this go through all the "proper channels" right to the legal dept.

  of canada in 97/98, so this story isn't new to them.

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  sKally, sf, or whoever

  Do you really think that Dwight Eisenhower would have given public notice what day was D-Day? Only the Watchtower sets dates.

  Angry as hell tonight,

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  Message From Faithful And Discreet Slave

  by silentlambs in

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  2. scandals

  i recieved a phone call last night from a brother who i was able to verify was of the anointed.

  he stated he represented a large group of anointed from within the organization and they wanted to send me a letter.

  the anointed remnant.

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  [QUOTE]
  Milton Henschel's backers

  Good God! Don't you people know that Milton Henschel has for some years been afflicted with a neurological problem similar to Alzheimer's? Seriously! Years ago this man had to READ his final prayer at district conventions. He is a kind vegetable, literally. Crushing to those who remember a sweet, gentle guy who would not even speak to Knorr before the latter's death.

  The bad guy is the system, not any man. Except for Theodore Jaracz, and no one will shed a tear when he is expediently kicked out. If anybody is to be censured, it is this snarling Doberman Pinscher whose toadies exhibit the very antithesis of the qualities the old "Society" claimed to stand for.

  For what it's worth, I think what was said is shorthand for "I verified they PROFESS to be of the anointed." Bowen certainly does not claim direct communication with God.

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  Message From Faithful And Discreet Slave

  by silentlambs in

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  i recieved a phone call last night from a brother who i was able to verify was of the anointed.

  he stated he represented a large group of anointed from within the organization and they wanted to send me a letter.

  the anointed remnant.

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  [QUOTE]
  Milton Henschel's backers

  Good God! Don't you people know that Milton Henschel has for some years been afflicted with a neurological problem similar to Alzheimer's? Seriously! Years ago this man had to READ his final prayer at district conventions. He is a kind vegetable, literally. Crushing to those who remember a sweet, gentle guy who would not even speak to Knorr before the latter's death.

  The bad guy is the system, not any man. Except for Theodore Jaracz, and no one will shed a tear when he is expediently kicked out. If anybody is to be censured, it is this snarling Doberman Pinscher whose toadies exhibit the very antithesis of the qualities the old "Society" claimed to stand for.

  For what it's worth, I think what was said is shorthand for "I verified they PROFESS to be of the anointed." Bowen certainly does not claim direct communication with God.

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  df'ing in absentia...

  by MoodyBlue in

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  i was wondering... can the elders df you in absentia if you haven't admitted to doing anything wrong??.

  my ex wanted his scriptural grounds for a divorce and i told him he had them.

  he went to the elders with this info and they called me up last night to try and get me to confess ( which i didn't- i told them it was none of thier business) they told me that they were having a judicial for me wed at 7, and i said i wouldn't be there.

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  I love the expression used elsewhere -- thugs. What an apt description! Thugs do what they want to. Never mind what the Flock book says, never mind procedure, they get their stripes and their jollies from stomping their way through, damn any little peon who gets in the way. or even someone who has humbly served for many many decades.

  Cite procedure all you want to, right now what I see is SURVIVAL. So they do anything they damned well please.

  They can't disfellowship you for "that"? They have to WHAT? Where have you kind souls been? You have spent your life playing by the rules, but that has all changed. They can damn well conjure up anything and say you have disassociated yourself by your conduct. Who the hell is going to challenge it? No appeals commitee will rock the boat. Service department backing off? THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RUNS SERVICE.

  The jack-booted thugs do not have to believe they are protecting the precious organization, they just do it under that guise. They just like their power. Qualified men are long gone, and in the vacuum a group of brown shirts has taken their place. You nice guys are in the minority and a quickly disappearing breed. That's not my humble opinion, that's fact.

  Totally disillusioned and ready to come out of my dub closet.

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  GB Admits It Has No Answers, Blood

  by Maximus in

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  "in contrast with humans, who have a limited life span, jehovah never feels pressured by time to reveal his secrets prematurely.

  this fact should prevent us from becoming impatient when certain bible questions cannot presently be explained to our satisfaction.

  "modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear.

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  <Anchor - Who was aware blood was given? What transpired afterwards? Judicial action? Guilty conscience? Still JW's?>

  I wrote in a passionate moment and likely said too much. But a deep breath and here goes anyway. Physician who was most understanding, arranging things so that it was not done in even an ICU where others would discover it. Husband who felt great relief that he had made a truly conscientious decision about two lives, no problem. Shook him to his teeth, began to look at other teachings, slowing down organizationally and not accepting assignments. Baby doing great, mother a total wreck and plagued by guilt, can accept it only because of headship, wanted to live for the baby but now thinks she is spiritually weak, ect, ect. One elder knew and encouraged husband, but knows he would have been thrown out in a minute if a very hard and rigid CO knew about it, or some other elders in the cong who would jump at the chance.

  I'm well aware of the directive not to pursue matters, but that's not really the way it works. Elders are rewarded for snitching and love to mix it up to show their power. The rewards are convention parts, special invitations, hobnobbing, and all that.

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  GB Admits It Has No Answers, Blood

  by Maximus in

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  "in contrast with humans, who have a limited life span, jehovah never feels pressured by time to reveal his secrets prematurely.

  this fact should prevent us from becoming impatient when certain bible questions cannot presently be explained to our satisfaction.

  "modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear.

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  <The twin-to-twin transfusion syndrome occurs when one twin always 'donates' blood to the other, because the communication between the two is unbalanced>

  God allows twin to twin transfusion?

  Somebody, please let the Governing Body know, because they are obviously not listening to God.

  <Well then, when your or your loved one's life is on the line, maybe you can get your local WT Blood Nazis (aka Hospital Liaison Committee member) to explain the natural movement of red blood cells and white blood cells in these references: (P.S. - leukocytes = are a type of white blood cell, erythrocytes are immature red blood cells. Most of these references are cited in this first article by Holzgreve which you can read on the net). Note this is the same scientific community that the Hospital Information Service uses to support [acceptance of] Albumin!!!!>

  Surely this "natural blood flow" is no secret with all these publications!

  Hawk, this is breath-taking. You've got my total respect.

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  Silentlambs and Signifiers that Signify Nothing

  by dunsscot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  call me a neopositivist, a semi-verificationist or semi-falsificationist, but the claims made by "silentlambs" reminds me of the shakespearean line that was quoted in the creator book published by the wtbts.

  that is, the contentions of silentlambs seem like much "sound and fury" that in truth signify nothing.

  i am of course referring to the supposed dateline show and the claims made about some members of the gb of jehovah's witnesses.

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  <I think you are wrong. Why rush to a doctor in this case? Why bypass the elders so quickly?>

  Harking to Maximus' post above, why on earth would you even think of going to elders? What qualifies them, no matter how well meaning? An appointment letter from the Society?

  Read gsark's disastrous consultation with elders!

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  Lack of brotherly love at the DC

  by noidea in

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  i sat at the dc today (yawn!

  ) trying to keep myself entertained i looked around and was wondering to myself how many that were there today were lurkers, trolls & fred halls.

  what were the possibilities that some may have even read some of my comments.

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  What about the volunteer person at the potty, who is assigned to let you know that bathroom privileges include just

  ONE

  piece of paper.

  Are they still doing that?

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