Posts by Joysome

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XJW's and Mental Health Disorders

by ColdRedRain in

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as many of you now know, i was in the mental ward for a breif period.

after i got out of the mental ward, i was placed in group therapy where i am today.

i talked with my therapist today and he mentioned a very interesting fact.

Joysome

It sounds genetic. Depression is genetic it isn't something that is connected with the religion you are in. It's a disease. You can't catch a disease from religion.

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lessons in love from the faithful and discreet

by galaxy7 in

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god certainly realizes that carrying out his righteous laws about cutting off wrongdoers often involves and affects relatives.

as mentioned above, when an israelite wrongdoer was executed, no more family association was possible.

in fact, if a son was a drunkard and a glutton, his parents were to bring him before the judges, and if he was unrepentant, the parents were to share in the just executing of him, 'to clear away what is bad from the midst of israel.

Joysome

Anyone who is feeling the sadness and pain that the disfellowshipped relative has thus caused may find comfort and be encouraged by the example set by some of Korah's relatives.

Oh so it's all my fault everyone is pain!

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Spankings In The KH Bathroom

by Hunyadi in

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oh, how many times have we heard the loud hard spankings of toddlers' and preschool aged children by their parents for making noise at the meetings echo from inside of the kingdom hall restrooms?

until now it was a memory i had forgotten, but it really bugs me now.. hunyadi

Joysome

honestly, i don't think there is a problem with disciplining a child by hitting. there is a difference between disciplining a child and beating a child. the problem is a lot of parents nowadays don't know the difference.

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Witness Speak

by Flash in

what controlling statements or questions do you remember hearing or using most?

my all time favorite is, "isn't this god's organization?

and shouldn't we obey god's organization??

Joysome

Here's my favorite right now. My mom tells me you need to understand that you sinned against Jehovah. I didn't sin against her. So i'm thinking if that's the case why is it that I can't talk to you but yet you still tell me that I can pray to Jehovah. I mean if I sinned against him wouldn't it make sense that he wouldn't want me to talk to him? I don't know that irritates me right now.

Another thing that irritates me now is my mom thinks that I party all the time. She thinks I got df'd just simply because I wanted to have 60 seconds of pleasure (yes she says that). I do party on the weekends but that's not what it's all about. I plan on going to school this fall and I still work everyday and take care of myself. I'm maintaining my own apartment. It's about self-discovery. I don't hate the organization like some do here but there are a lot of things that I disagree with though.

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A Letter I Want To Send To My Brother

by ZeroKool29 in

most of what i read was the book of ecclesiastes.

i don?t think it would.

i remember having a ton of those books lying around, and some of them i never read.

Joysome

What a great letter! Honestly!!!! My favorite is this

Are you not capable of making a decision with your conscience? Do you really feel that I am a threat to your faith? That associating with me would negatively effect your morality? That I will try to preach against your religion and make you want to leave it? Do you really feel that me wanting to have a relationship with you again has ANYTHING to do with religion AT ALL?

I mean it's the truth....Am I that bad or do I have that much control over my family that I would influence them so much as to leave their faith?

I hope you find the address and are able to send it and he reads it with an open and unbias mind and heart.

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Another hole in the JW's version of inherited sin

by logansrun in

the wt has often alluded that there is a genetic defect in humankind ever since adam and eve ate of the "forbidden fruit.

" we've all heard the "dent in a pan = dent in the cakes" illustration countless times over by the society and, for that matter, by a number of fundamentalist christians.

but, there is an enormous problem with this line of reasoning.

Joysome

ok...at the time however they were "closer" to perfection after leaving the Garden....as time progress, perfection got further and further away from them...and here we are today.

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My new issue.....

by Joysome in

as i've said before i'm very lost and torn and confused.

part of me still believes in the things that i was taught as a jw.

1. armageddon.

Joysome

Here's something that hurt really bad. My mom as I said above deals with depression she always has. Well she was doing so well yesterday and she went to the doctor today and they put her on more meds. Well I was asking what it was that was giving her anxiety. Well one of the things is that she's afraid she's been talking to me too much and she doesn't want to displease Jehovah. Because she's talking to me,her daughter. It just hurts so much. It's not fair. It's not fair at all. Disfellowshipping makes you feel like you are such a terrible person. I mean so bad your MOTHER can't talk to you. It hurts.

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Are You Still Torn, Wondering Whether You Made The Right Decision To Leave?

by minimus in

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are you 100% sure you're doing the right thing??

?

Joysome

I think everyone on this board knows how I feel. :)

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I was a good kid because I was raised by Bible Principles

by Nosferatu in

sometimes when i go visit my mother, she mentions that i was a good kid because i was raised by bible principles.

i was crying for absolutely no reason at all.

around 11:30, i felt completely ill. i went up to my teacher and told him i was going to see the nurse.

Joysome

Concerned Mama,

You make an excellent point.

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My new issue.....

by Joysome in

as i've said before i'm very lost and torn and confused.

part of me still believes in the things that i was taught as a jw.

1. armageddon.

Joysome

Hi! It's me again. As I've said before I'm very lost and torn and confused. Part of me still believes in the things that I was taught as a JW. But some I don't.

1. Armageddon. Is it fair that millions of children are killed before they even get a chance to think for themselves? Is fair that they pay for their parents "mistakes" through death?

2. The flood. If god destroyed the earth then, Why didn't he just start all over then. Wasn't Noah proof enough that people would serve him regardless?

3. The fact that the organization had a beginning. Meaning if it's the true religion why did it have to just start? I mean wouldn't it have continued on and on and never stopped or started?

4. The fact that so many things are controlled from watching Soap operas to buying a two door car.

5. The disfellowshipping process.

But there are many things that I liked and loved about it.

1. I always had something to do.

2. I used to have a riot in field service. Boy I could tell you some stories.

3. My hall was like watching comedy central. Honestly, the brothers were hilarious on stage.

4. The love. Everyone loved me. I got along with everyone. I mean I was so exemplary that people would have me hang out with their kids to help them and give them someone to look up to. And I loved them all too! I really did.

5. I felt as though I had a purpose. I was going somewhere in life. I don't now. I just don't.

Now I'm going to go back to #4 of the good things about the truth and one more to the bad things. The EXTREME guilt. Because I was so well liked and people looked up to me. I felt bad when I did things that were "wrong"

Then there's my mom. I love that woman so much!! I miss her. And I know that me not being in the truth right now is hurting her bad. Very bad. She deals with major depression. It's causing her so much anxiety. I wouldn't even want to be the last person to cause her anxiety and right now I'm number one. so there's guilt with that.

I'm so confused.