I feel there are negatives and positives about every organization. I think ultimately you have to look at the reason behind why are you still going to the meetings and continuing to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Write them down...see what outweighs what. Also, if you still believe in the bible USE IT see how things are supported by the organization using the bible and see if it's a valid organization. I think if you allow what other people have done...or said how the elders treat and blame the ENTIRE organization on it. It isn't fair. A lot of people on this board (and I don't mean to offend with this) but they have been mistreated in one way or another. So here what may seem the norm may not be the norm. I feel for everyone that has had a negative situation with WTS. but the truth is there isn't going to be one place or another organization that is going to be all good or all bad. I know I'm rambling...but do research and then sit back and simply do what is best for you.
Joysome
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Visit From Elders
by laurelin init's been awhile since i've been on here.
due to death in the family, chicken pox in children and other nasty things.. i posted here awhile ago about things i had found the unsettled me.
i was due to have a visit from two elders and a lot of you gave me lots of help and encouragement.. well, the two elders visited and i have to admit that it was nothing like i expected.. they sat down, and told me straight away that there was nothing i could say or ask that would hurt me.
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The straw that broke the camel's back
by Satans little helper inyou know, the last little thing that blew your patience out of the water and forced you to face up to the fact that you were in a cult that doesn't believe in the bible so much as it believes in it's own power structure?.
for me it was beards.
stupid i know and possibly the most trivial of things to be 'stumbled' over but to me it was the epitomy of what was wrong with the witnesses - arbitrary rules poking their noses into the lives of people where they had no business.
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Joysome
Well I won't say that the camel's back is completely broken. Just a little strained. But, the whole judicial committee and discipline process. I mean why do you have to go into such great detail? Then, where in the bible does it say that my mother should not talk to me? The fact that a religion can have such a great hold as to break a mother and daughter relationship up just baffles me.
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Guess what my mom said to me now!
by Joysome infirst, let me give you some background.
i'm 24 years old 5'7" and i weigh 285. i'm a big girl!
so i am currently going through the process of having gastric bypass surgery.
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Another thing she said is that the doctors are out for money. That they will tell me anything to get the money. That they are looking out for themselves and etc. I'm like they aren't used car salesmen! They aren't trying to swindle me into the surgery. But that's how my mom always thought that that is how people in the "world" are.
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Guess what my mom said to me now!
by Joysome infirst, let me give you some background.
i'm 24 years old 5'7" and i weigh 285. i'm a big girl!
so i am currently going through the process of having gastric bypass surgery.
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Joysome
If you and your mom are close buddies, she could be afraid that this will change you and that you will meet some nice man and go off and live your own life.
That's the thing we WERE close buddies and we're not anymore due the fact that I'm disfellowshipped. The only reason she'll talk to me about the surgery is because it's a "business" issue. She even feels guilty about that. that she shouldn't be talking to me about it as much as she should.
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Guess what my mom said to me now!
by Joysome infirst, let me give you some background.
i'm 24 years old 5'7" and i weigh 285. i'm a big girl!
so i am currently going through the process of having gastric bypass surgery.
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Joysome
First, let me give you some background. I'm 24 years old 5'7" and I weigh 285. I'm a big girl! So I am currently going through the process of having gastric bypass surgery. I should find out if I'm approved by next week. Anyway, my mom is not happy about it at all. A) She's afraid that I will need a blood transfusion. B.) she's afraid I'll die...but the most important is that she's afraid that once I lose the weight I'll become more attractive to men and I'll meet someone and I won't come back to the "truth"!?!?!?
Now no where is she considering my health. that being overweight is unhealthy and I could end up with some serious diseases down the road. None of that...just i'm afraid you'll meet a man. Well surprise I'm already seeing someone so how is it going to make a difference. It just hurts that that is one of the reasons as to why she doesn't want me to have the surgery. That she'd think I was that vain!
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"If anyone calls himself a BROTHER ,"...................
by gumby in5:9-11, says that anyone who .....calls himself a brother and is a fornicator, idolater, drunkard and such, is not to be greeted or have a meal shared with them.
the witnesses of course, apply this to anyone who calls themselves a witness, and is any of those things, yet still calls themselves a witness.. the problem i always had understanding is......if a person does not call himself a "brother" ( a witness) any longer, then how do they justify applying it to those who choose not to be recognised as such any longer?
in the niv footnote section which gives a short commentary on scriptures.....it plainly says this applies to any who call themselves christians, and do these things.
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Joysome
A friend and I had a conversation about that once....we can't come to a logical conclusion on that.
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Were you raised as a dub or did you convert?
by BLISSISIGNORANCE ini was a catholic all my life then in my early 30s i got baptized as a jw.
a friend of mine when in her 20s became a dub.
she always talked to me about the borg and troof and i listened.
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Joysome
Born and raised. Mother was baptized when I was 3 so don't remember much else. I was DF'd when I was 23.
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"worldly association". I missed out on a lot of good times!
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Car Reviews - What are you driving, how do you rate it?
by badwillie ini am in the market for a new (used, new to me) car .
please help me out.. i currently drive a 1993 volvo 960 with 150,000 miles on it.
not given me any major problems, i'm just itching for something different really.
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Joysome
Right now I'm driving a 1993 Geo prizm. That's right...but it runs like a champ. I don't need a new car but I want one. I'm looking at the Mazda6's. I want a 2004. They are sharp. I want a sportier car...but I'm still in the four door mind frame. I'm also thinking about the Ford Escape.
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A spin-off to Does it ever get easier?
by Joysome inmy question is regards to family though.
does missing your mother ever get easier?
does not wanting to hurt her or even others in the congregation get easier?
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Joysome
My question is regards to family though. Does missing your mother ever get easier? Does not wanting to hurt her or even others in the congregation get easier? That's the hardest part. I miss my mother so much. but going back to simply have a relationship with her isn't fair to her or myself. So what is a person to do? I'm ok most days but when I'm checking my mail and my mother drives by and looks at me and doesn't beep and wave, yeah that's hard. I don't know...and I don't know if it's my upbringing but I have this need to please people and do things that will make them happy and love me. I know that I'm doing that right now in her eyes. So does missing your mom ever get easier?