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  Why Can You See Through the Watchtower While Others Cannot?

  by The wanderer in

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  2. friends

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  compared with the six million jehovahs witnesses worldwide the .

  so-called apostates are comparatively much smaller.

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  Morgan

  Brainwashing may be too harsh of a term....It's more a conditioning process, especially for those who are raised a jw. After being bottle-fed with wts doctrine, we read the Bible with 'wts glasses' on. The wts has made it very difficult for removal of these 'glasses' through the shunning policy and the overall fear of wts teachings..(eg. death at armageddon, etc.).

  I myself, do not have any family in the wts. I began studying at age 18. After 20+ years of 'fence sitting' (I was never baptised as a jw), I chose to get to the bottom of my own procrastination. I started reading the Bible without any so-called aids of the wts, taking a fresh look at the scriptures. My goal was to have a personal relationship with God, irregardless of what that meant. And, my spiritual growth began to take the drivers seat. I have never looked back....only forward.

  For those who have family in, looking and holding back would be a natural reaction. It would be very difficult to leave the 'pack'. It's similar to being raised with abuse...it's the only life they know. Leaving is not really an option.....for they question, 'where would they go'? The conditioning has left them dependent upon the wts for thier basic needs of family, structure, acceptance, and the purpose of life, (no matter how dysfuctional in reality). Just some additional thoughts....
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  What would the wts do if most jws refused to shun people who leave?

  by fullofdoubtnow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many ex jws and faders agree that being shunned, or the thought of being shunned, is the hardest part of leaving the wts, and undoubtedly keeps many in who would rather be out.

  i wonder what would happen if the majority of current jws defied the rule and refused to shun leavers.

  would there be mass df'ings, which would leave the ranks somewhat depleted, or would the wts be forced to change it's rules?.

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  Morgan

  Finally Free has a good point..they demand shunning to keep the r&f at thier mercy. It's basically a family bred religion, (in my local cong. anyway).
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  Things that Hallmark cards don't say

  by Morgan in

  1. social
  2. humour

  things that hallmark cards don't say .

  my tire was thumping.

  i thought it was flat .

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  Morgan

  THINGS THAT HALLMARK CARDS DON'T SAY
  
  My tire was thumping.
  
  I thought it was flat
  
  When I looked at the tire...
  
  I noticed your cat.
  
  Sorry!
  
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  Heard your wife left you,
  
  How upset you must be.
  
  But don't fret about it...
  
  She moved in with me.
  
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  Looking back over the years
  
  that we've been together,
  
  I can't help but wonder...
  
  "What the hell was I thinking?"
  
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  Congratulations on your wedding day!
  
  Too bad no one likes your husband.
  
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  How could two people as beautiful as you
  
  Have such an ugly baby?
  
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  I've always wanted to have
  
  someone to hold,
  
  someone to love.
  
  After having met you
  
  I've changed my mind.
  
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  I must admit, you brought Religion into my life.
  
  I never believed in Hell until I met you.
  
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  As the days go by, I think of how lucky I am...
  
  That you're not here to ruin it for me.
  
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  Congratulations on your promotion.
  
  Before you go...
  
  Would you like to take this knife out of my back?
  
  You'll probably need it again.
  
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  Happy Birthday, Uncle Dad!
  
  (Available only in Tennessee , Kentucky & West Virginia )
  
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  Happy birthday! You look great for your age.
  
  Almost Lifelike!
  
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  When we were together,
  
  you always said you'd die for me.
  
  Now that we've broken up,
  
  I think it's time you kept your promise.
  
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  We have been friends for a very long time ..
  
  let's say we stop?
  
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  I'm so miserable without you
  
  it's almost like you're here.
  
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  Congratulations on your new bundle of joy.
  
  Did you ever find out who the father was?
  
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  Your friends and I wanted to do
  
  something special for your birthday.
  
  So we're having you put to sleep.
  
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  So your daughter's a hooker,
  
  and it spoiled your day.
  
  Look at the bright side,
  
  it's really good pay.
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  If This Isn't A Cult----What Is It????

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the organization teaches that we leave everyone and everything else behind when we join christianity (also known as the "truth").

  your father, mother, brother and sister all have to be given up to become a "real" christian.

  friends that you grew up that are not of the same religion must be abandoned.

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  Morgan

  The extreme behavior of this org...
  
  No blood transfusions
  Shunning (in the extreme)
  R&F cannot partake of emblems
  Peddeling thier mags/books
  Cannot read/discuss anything contrary to F&DS material
  Anyone outside of org are considered 'worldly'
  Can only marry within the org
  Spirituality is based on works
  Christ is not the R&F's mediator
  Love for neighbor is shown only through preaching, not humanitarian acts
  While in the field members will discuss which house they will have after the big A
  Some pictures in literature are horrific (they seem to be fasinated with the death of others)
  Hide the sins of child abusers
  2 witness rule
  Women must wear dresses to all meeting/field service/studies
  Men cannot have beards
  Outcast own family members
  Put org above the Christ
  4 doors cars are preferred
  New light replaces old
  
  There are more, add to it.
  
  Some of these may be considered quirks yet, they are extreme. No balance, just rules that determine if one is spititualy strong.
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  Why Do You or Don't You Believe In The Bible?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you believe in the bible just because you were raised to believe?

  are you sure it's "believable"?

  .....have you convinced yourself the bible is just another book?

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  Morgan

  I have gone through the 'niggles' of not believing it. Then I decided to read it without pre-conceived ideas, (very difficult, but I'm trying). Guess what? My faith is stronger than I've ever experienced. I know this is hard for some to believe but, it's all been fulfilled. The Bible is a history book. It's still alive yet, all the prophecies have been accomplished.
  
  I came to this conclusion on my own. It has opened my eyes and ears to peace that I never thought was attainable. The fruits of the spirit are alive and will continue forever, IMHO.
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  I found a big ol' fat lie again in there!

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some big fat liar made sumthin up again!

  looky here what i went and found in the bible!

  remember that little dove that desended down on jesus right after he was baptised by john?

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  Morgan

  Sticking my nose in....John 1:19-37 is speaking of John the Baptist. Not John the apostle (who presumably wrote the book of John). It is not a 'play by play' account of Jesus's baptism. When John the Baptist sees the Christ walking towards him, (v.29) he reiterates the account of his baptism, telling those who are with him that this was the Christ and, for these reasons/identifying traits,(vs.29-34). The baptism of Jesus occured at an earlier time. Jesus did go to the wilderness for 40 days, following his baptism(the Matthew account). This account, in John, happened after that. That's how I read the scripture, anyway.
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  Was God in this disaster?

  by bikerchic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got this in my email and thought i would pass it along.

  i know many of us are struggling with so many issues involving god and the bad things that happen.

  for me this recent tsunami disaster was over the top, i'm beyond understanding and i'm not going to say this article helped me understand any better but it did show me that x-jw's aren't the only ones who struggle with such questions.

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  Morgan

  In response to the original question.....Was God in this disaster?
  
  IMPO, no. It is the cycle of the earth. A natural disaster, that the earth has been spewing since its exsistence. Along with tornados, volcanos, floods, etc.
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  ketchup on your eggs-poll

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont know if its my n.e.

  upbringing, but how many of you out there enjoy a little ketchup with your eggs.

  tabasco sauce doesn't count.

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  Morgan

  Has anyone tried salsa? I use to do the ketchup thing, but once you try salsa you may never go back!!!
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  Let's welcome Love, Me

  by codeblue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i couldn't help but notice love, me is new....she has 2 posts.

  let's all welcome her and maybe she will share a bit about her, if she can!!!

  welcome love, me .

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  Morgan

  Welcome, Love Me!
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  Satan wants you to have an easy life

  by Pleasuredome in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ahhhhh bless

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  Morgan

  Well, the 1st thing I thought of is......Jesus said his yoke is light, (not Satans). The WTS is a hard, strict, controlling, etc. etc. unyielding orginization. Hmmmmmmm... where does that leave Satan??