Posts by Fisherman

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Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?

by Fisherman in

not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.

the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.

given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.

Fisherman

DJW, you are cool. In the heat of discussion I’ve often posted rashly here. I respect you for your honesty. I’ve noted this virtue in your other posts. I too mean no offense with my posts. I don’t preach to the choir here on this forum. Many posters here make good point. I’m not going to pretend they are not and resort to fallacy to win an argument. I would be lying to myself. I don’t want to give the impression that my objective approach to the forensic analysis and critical thinking of wt beliefs and practices on board means I don’t sincerely believe in my religion. I do believe. But I also enjoy the discussions here. It is interesting. I don’t need to be defensive about it in an apologetic manner.

I also compassionately understand the feelings of people here because I too have feelings.

With kindness,

Fisherman

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Index of Evidence for Evolution Threads

by cofty in

re-posting this for reference.. #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

#2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

#3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

Fisherman

Archaeopteryx is supposed to be the missing link between birds and dinosaurs, supposedly having feathers but are flying dinosaurs birds? For example bats, flying squirrels, pterodactyls fly but they aren’t birds. What kind of creature is Archaeopteryx?

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Silicon Valley Bank bankruptcy....

by mikeflood in

didn't know silicon valley bank was so important for start-ups....now there's some sort of contagion, people taking their money from regional banks to the big banks.

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system seems pretty resilient and different from 2008. thoughts?.

Fisherman

Thanks for the vid! Would like to understand what is the proximate cause. At first, I thought like DD that the banks made real dumb investments like to the outfits he mentions in his post. But after watching the vid, a lot of banks are affected and has to be something even bigger. I don’t think it is a coincidence but I could be wrong that after the economic sanctions aimed at Russia, a lot of things in the US have changed for the worse as if the sanctions are backfiring on the American people. But I am all ears if someone knows what is going on with the banks.

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Clever Misdirection

by TD in

jw
friends

i was looking at the (mostly) wrong answers to a riddle that's making the rounds on social media and thought it was a good example of how something simple (in this case, grade school math) can be distorted with words.

the riddle goes like this:.

i bought a cow for $800.. i sold it for $1000.

Fisherman

A banking strategy:

https://youtu.be/1aVYJ-krSMA

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Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?

by Fisherman in

not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.

the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.

given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.

Fisherman

am pointing out that your comments give me the impression that you are not entirely whom you claim to be.

Read my posts here and think again. Your erroneous conclusions also show how you misunderstand the Bible. I am not going my practice my religion by your likings. I also previously made it clear to you my religious position. I am enjoying posting on this forum and having academic friendly discussions. Stop being concerned about my religious practices and worry about yourself.

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Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?

by Fisherman in

not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.

the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.

given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.

Fisherman

DJW

It is funny how people like you tell me what it means to be good JW.

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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

by EdenOne in

mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

Fisherman

Self-defense can be violent, but that doesn’t legally make me an assailant for not being the victim

Sadly, it does in the US. Or rather it can be be construed that way. In other countries they may give you a medal of honor, maybe but not in the US. Like I stated previously, have fun defending a civil lawsuit or criminal charges against a prosecutor who has zero interest in justice and just wants to win. You have zero idea what you are up against. Wises thing to do is to surrender your money when being robbed and to use the least force when being attacked even if someone breaks into your home. If your actions are not based on fear but on anger as you post appears to show, that will be used against you. because you will definitely be sued if you hurt someone and the DA will also evaluate the force you used.

One example is Bernie Getz who was definitely being mugged. At first he was hailed a hero but then look what happened to him. He was being robbed by many assailants and used deadly force —but he was angry. So he got himself into a legal mess.

Another recent example is a father who saw his child being segsually assaulted and killed the guy. Now he is wearing an orange jumpsuit. There are tons of others. At the very least it will cost you tons of money. Obviously, if you truly are in fear of your life and can’t get away, then using force to defend yourself may be your only choice even if costs you all your money to defend legal proceedings and even if you wind up in jail. In the US criminals have rights too. Let’s say you set up a device to trap someone breaking into your property and someone with criminal intention breaks into your property and is injured by your trap, you may be held civilly and criminally liable. Lets say someone breaks into your home at night with you inside and you unalive that person, you may also be legally liable. Lets say you have a sign saying beware of dog and someone is bit by your violent dog, you may be legally liable. If you don’t like US laws, that’s the way they cut the cookie. Don’t call me fishy face because you don’t like good information.

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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

by Giles Gray in

i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

Fisherman

Evidently just about anything is possible when generations overlap.

By definition generations overlap. The puzzle is what did Jesus mean by generation when applying it to his parousia. We at JW have tried to apply every possible definition (given JC parousia began in 1914 and JW theology ) So if 1914 is correct Jesus words must come true. That is to say, the expected gt. It is overdue. It seems to be delaying.

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Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?

by Fisherman in

not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.

the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.

given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.

Fisherman

Elmer, you remind me of someone that keeps honking the horn with a red light up ahead. Let them pass you then honk the horn behind them. Then they don’t like it. I’ve also told people with college degrees to return them and get their money back

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Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?

by Fisherman in

not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.

the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.

given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.

Fisherman

Very, VERY soon!"

That is subjective and doesn’t specifically address WHEN. Soon, very soon, very very soon, very, very very soon could mean in a couple of minutes or in a 1000 years depends on how you define soon. Why JW are loyal and that gt is coming soon even if it takes another 2000 years does not explain when.

When doesn’t depend on loyalty. Or on how soon it feels or is or on how you play with the word soon.

“Tell us WHEN will these things be”

in October 1914 if still alive today would be 108 years

I understand very well.

Great tribulation or bust is the motto assuming the correctness of 1914: “ “My words will never pass away” is recorded in all 3 gospels.