Posts by gespro

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Thanksgiving Menu at Bethel for 2004

by Scorpion in

new world diner

welcome to new world food and "spirits".

(a non-prophet organization for the faithful & discreet diner.

Bush Joke on the bathroom Wall

by gespro in

i walked into a men's room and saw this on the wall.

guys: urinals and uncontrolled laughter don't mix...

if you voted for bush, you can't s**t here!

gespro

I walked into a men's room and saw this on the wall.

Guys: Urinals and uncontrolled laughter don't mix...

Have you seen/heard this one:

If you voted for Bush, You can't s**t here! Your a$$****'s in Washington DC!

gespro of the D'oh! class

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The ultimate JW presidential flip flop.

by BeelzeDub in

jehovah spoke to the current president of zambia while he was one of jehovah's witnesses and told him to get back into politics.

president mwanawasa: "i vowed never to associate myself with politics and that is why i joined the jehovah's witnesses," president mwanawasa said.

"but after seven years of abstinence, god spoke to me that you have not fulfilled the work i sent you in government for.

gespro

Lol.reminds me of the crazy crap Idi Amin used to come out with.King of Scotland etc...

This reminds me of GW Bush. Hey wait a minute, didn't HenryVIII do something simular when he wanted a divorce and usurped the authority of the church when it wasn't granted...?

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Big Tax Bill on JW's in France

by gespro in

i didn't find this in the threads so i'm posting it just in case you guys didn't see this [courtesy of ...ahem...jw's united]

france - court of cassation confirms jehovah?s witnesses have to pay 23 million eur taxes.

the decision will be appealed before the european court of human rights.

gespro

I didn't find this in the threads so I'm posting it just in case you guys didn't see this [courtesy of ...ahem...JW's United]

FRANCE - Court of cassation confirms Jehovah?s Witnesses have to pay 23 million EUR taxes

The decision will be appealed before the European Court of Human Rights

HRWF (21.10.2004) ? Email: [email protected] - Website: http://www.hrwf.net - On October 5, 2004, the Court of Cassation in France confirmed the measure taken by the Internal Revenue to impose a retroactive 60% tax on offerings received by the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses during several years. The amount to be paid is 23 million EUR and some property has already been mortgaged.

At the Human Dimension Implementation Meeting of the OSCE in Warsaw (4-15 October 2004), a representative of the French « Association des Témoins de Jehovah » made a statement which was then circulated to the 55 official delegations and other participants. He was quoted as saying : ?No other religion in France is being taxed in the same way. The fundamental religious freedom of 250,000 who attend Jehovah?s Witnesses religious services in France has been dealt a severe blow by this court decision. Beyond the simple question of taxation, it is the practice of religion that is in question. The French authorities will say that it is a sovereign decision by the Court of Cassation, a legal decision. But I solemnly assert that it is an unjust measure that seriously flouts the high principles to which France is attached. This unparalleled tax measure has been criticized by the vast majority of specialists. More than 30 articles published in reputable legal journals have expressed the view that this tax is exorbitant and highly questionable. Jehovah?s Witnesses will appeal this discriminatory measure before the European Court of Human Rights.?

The OSCE/ ODIHR posted the text of the statement on its internal website alongside all the other statements made during the conference.

In 1996, the Parliamentary Enquiry Commission on Sects included Jehovah?s Witnesses on a list of ?dangerous sects? and made a general recommendation for tax authorities to check the accounting and financing of the so-called sects through tax audits. The tax authorities initiated an audit against the « Association des Témoins de Jehovah » (ATJ) and recognized the non-profit nature of their association but applied to them a law designed to prevent individuals from circumventing inheritance tax and which had never been used against associations. Through this procedure, the authorities applied a tax rate of 60% and claimed back taxes on individual gifts for the years 1993-1996.

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Can JWs vote now?

by BeelzeDub in

bob greene a jw from new haven mass, voted for kerry!

both parties made the iraq war and the war on terrorism key issues in their campaigns and voters responded at the polls.

bob greene, 49, of new haven, said he is a jehovah's witness and does not usually vote but considered this election too important to miss.

gespro

To echo Undercover- Back in my days in the Borg it was UNHEARD of to even think these terms at all. I'm truly amazed by the gradual deteriorization of the Society. Never thought it would happen in my former Dub frame of mind [of course not. We were brainwashed!] but now look. It's falling from the inside out!

Okay, gotta go duck from falling buildings now...

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INDIAN GIRL WHO WEEPS STONES

by wednesday in

indian girl who weeps stones in plea for help by justin huggler in delhi

19 october 2004 .

the girl who wept stones: it sounds like something out of a gabriel garcia marquez novel.

gespro

Ya' know, I saw this a day or two ago and I ignored it thinking it was anther one of those sensationalist, National Enquirer stories. So, it's for real, huh? Wow! Poor girl...

Hey- maybe it's like kidney stones...

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DF can Kill/Exposing JWS wherever I can

by wednesday in

a cousin of mine was raised jw.

his parents, friends, wife, and children,.

and it seemed, everything he knew, were all jw.

gespro

Hey there Wednesday

Recently I've been taking advantage of exposing the JWcult for what it is whenever I'm involved in a spirituality discussion. I used to cringe whenever anyone would say negative things about the society long after I was out! I can't believe how hardcore I was when defending them. Now I can't wait to tell anybody with ears to stay away from such an abusive organization!

I'm with ya

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My story in a nutshell...AKA Hi Im MelbaToast!

by MelbaToast in

jw
friends

thought i would formally introduce myself.

my name is melbatoast and im an alcoholic.... oops...wrong board :).

but seriously, i really like this board, so glad i found it.

gespro

Hi Melba and welcome!!!!

It is indeed a heartbreaking story. You are not alone.

I've had to readjust my thinking over the past 4 years and lose the JW mindset that has nearly destroyed my life. I'm finally understanding that I can't save the world [let alone friends and family] from the traumas I've seen but I can recover and be healthy again and maybe the world will notice the changes I've taken myself through and follow suit [to a recovery]. Leave the guilt and shame in a bag and toss it away from you. Be well...

g

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"This Land" featuring John Kerry & George Bush

by Sirius Dogma in

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liberal weiners & right wing nutjobs unite in laughing.

http://www.jibjab.com/thisland.html

gespro

LOL

I'm laughing!!!!

LOL

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NWT Hides the Divine Name as Found in W&H

by [email protected] in

nwt hides the divine name as found in w&h

one of the foremost features of the 1948 macmillan edition of the w&h

greek text is the careful identification and indication of ?quotations from the old testament.?

gespro

Just got a copy of the S.T. Byington The Bible in Living English* from Randall Watters [thanx Randy!].

I did research on Byington and I have much respect for him as a human being as well as a translator without an agenda. Here is his version of

John 1:1

At the first there was the Word, and the word was where God was, and the Word was God.

Can anyone give me feedback on this?

* I'm still trying to figure out what the WT$ is planning to do with this translation seeing that it still holds the rights but is still out of print..

gespro -maintaining...