Hey I just thought of something else. Is ewatchman giving the glory for the 'spiritual food' to the Father or to the FDS? The Israelites were supposed to follow Moses, but when Moses took credit for himself for getting water out of the rock, he was disciplined. So what kind of discipline does the FDS deserve for all the self-glorying it revels in !!?
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Newbies, Those in Doubt . . . A rant just for you . . .
by Corvin inquote from the e-watchman's forum:
this "organization", whether or not it is in good standing in jehovah's eyes, has given us some very valuable and treasured accurate biblical knowledge.
to deny that would be unfair and perhaps throwing spiritual food back in our father's face ...
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Newbies, Those in Doubt . . . A rant just for you . . .
by Corvin inquote from the e-watchman's forum:
this "organization", whether or not it is in good standing in jehovah's eyes, has given us some very valuable and treasured accurate biblical knowledge.
to deny that would be unfair and perhaps throwing spiritual food back in our father's face ...
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trumangirl
Corvin, thanks, I loved your post.
As a fairly recently inactive one, I still need the odd reminder that I've done the right thing, especially after I've checked ewatchman's site and start to feeling like maybe I haven't done the right thing cos he's pulled at old strings ...
I like the point about the Israelite system eventually being cast off.
Thank you again,
trumangirl
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May 1st 2004 WT encourages more MacPioneers
by trumangirl inthe first study article of this wt (youths, are you building for the future?
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"a spiritual view of things will likely lead you to make decisions that others will not understand.
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The first study article of this WT (Youths, are you Building for the Future?), para 22:
"A spiritual view of things will likely lead you to make decisions that others will not understand. For example, one young Christian man was a gifted musician and an honor student in every subject at school. When he graduated, he joined his father in a window-cleaning business so he could pursue his chosen vocation of full-time evangelizer, or pioneer. His teachers never did understand the reasons for his decision, but if you have drawn close to Jehovah, we are sure that you do."
Does anyone else feel angry when reading this?
What happened to the more balanced view of tertiary education that came in a few years ago? I reckon so many young dubs were going to university, having their minds opened to new concepts and questioning the troof, the WT is now reacting by reverting to exerting subtle pressure on the young ones to not go to university, instead to subject themselves through the hellish life experience of the young pioneer/menial job/poverty trap (hence, MacPioneer).
trumangirl.
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What does the Convention do, when no one gets baptized?
by DaCheech init was communicated to me last night that an assembly in queens, ny (3 miles from headquarters in brooklyn) had no baptisms!
what does the speaker do when pronouncing the mandatory baptismal talk?
he says the questions (that have to be asnwered), and answers with a "yes" to all showing people what the due answer would have to be!
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There were no baptisms at the assembly in my circuit a couple of years ago (that was the second to last assembly I went to). The discouragement was palpable.
The speaker was a warm speaker with a light friendly touch, he mentioned that there was no candidates at the start but said maybe it was because they planned to get baptised at the district convention! Then he gave the talk anyway because it was "a good reminder for us baptised of our dedication" or something like that. I felt sorry for him, having to dream up a fudge.
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E-Watchman Provides a Sickening Reminder
by Corvin inmy brief membership to the e-watchman's site was a sickening reminder of the brainwashing and hypocrisy of the wtbts.
through my sources, i have obtained a rare picture of the illusive e-watchman.
why does he look so familiar to me .
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I'm curious, someone back there said ewatchman used to post here and had some failed predictions? As a newbie, I would like some examples please? Ewatchman was my first experience of anything about JWs on the net, and it blew me away, his reasonings against 1914 are great, but then the rest of it wasn't convincing, especially his idea that we should stay with the org despite everything. I would appreciate some examples of his failed predictions.
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The TRUTH for dummies. Chapter 1
by beaker inbeing only newly freed from the wts, there are many people who were my friends that i would like to be able to explain the truth about many of the points raised on this board.
so i have decided to compile a publication that i can mail to them with short succinct, hardhitting reasoning on areas where the wts is misleading them and also areas where they are saying one thing but practising another.
i would like to be able to limit the explanations to one topic per page with the hope that if there is not too much too read they may just bother to read it.
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Yeh Beaker, I think the cross/stake argument is not impressive to devout JWs. It's not really something that matters much. It will put them off listening further.
I've found if you stick to prophetic interpretation when talking to JWs - eg tell them why you no longer believe in 1914 (read Carl Olof Johnson's book and ewatchman's reasonings on it), that is more acceptable to them than doctrinal arguments, because JWs know and accept that the WTS stuffs up on prophecy. Then, when they've got questions buzzing in their heads that have to be answered, they may start looking deeper into the 'truth'.
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E-Watchman Provides a Sickening Reminder
by Corvin inmy brief membership to the e-watchman's site was a sickening reminder of the brainwashing and hypocrisy of the wtbts.
through my sources, i have obtained a rare picture of the illusive e-watchman.
why does he look so familiar to me .
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Have you seen the discussion board posts? (the discussion board is a new feature). Nauseating. There's a poster on there called "Miss Ann Thrope". very fitting.
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PLEASE HELP! Assist in 1914 Rebuttal...
by Jared inok, so i'm trying to just plant a tiny seed of doubt somewhere in the cracks of my mothers mind, but that woman has 'jehovah' tattooed on her chest!
anyway, i would not only like help for her benefit but also for my benefit.
so it all started when i questioned her about 1914.... i wrote to her: 'as you had suggested i wanted to do some research.
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E-watchman.com has done a good essay about it.
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e-watchman, thoughts from past topic
by confusedjw ini was looking back and a month ago there was a topic about e-watchman and who he was and why he would expose the wt with one side of his mouth and encourage loyalty with the other side.
i wonder if these might be the reasons.... 1. he himself claims to be of the anointed and truly believes he is helping to expose the "evil slave" amongst jehovah's people.. 2. by encouraging loyalty to the wt he doesn't scare away the numberous active witnesses who read his columns and send in questions.
they read and stay in the congregations.
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pardon?
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Finding serenity after leaving the JWs
by NaruNaruChan intonight was such an interesting and profound night for me.
i went to class... well, specifically a class that i enjoy a great deal... with a professor who has inspired me since i began college...
so i'm sitting there, listening to him lecture, watching him walk back and forth across the stage with this huge projection of the u.s. territories in the background... and for the first time in what seems like ages, my soul spoke to me.
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That's cool, I enjoyed that.