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  How to handle dubs [stupid lack of] reasoning

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  when i discussed birthdays with my ms father-in-law, i brought up how eye-makeup has pagan roots, is only mentioned twice in the bible, and both times it is associated with someone wicked guilty of murder.

  in every way, it is identical to birthdays, yet it isn't condemned.

  he said, "we're not talking about make-up, we're talking about birthdays.".

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  itsallgoodnow

  I've never had any success reasoning with JWs, and I don't expect to. They are very defensive about it. Somewhere deep inside, they might really know something's not right, but they throw up the defense out of fear.

  I recently heard bridesmaids were also from a pagan origin, too. They were used to ward off an attack from evil spirits. If the evil spirits tried to attack the bride, they would get the bridesmaid instead. So, when are they going to ban bridesmaids from the weddings, I wonder?

  If they are going to use the pagan origin thing they shouldn't be so selective about it. But being selective is really what they are all about. Selective scriptures that support whatever BS they are going on about, selective destruction by God, selective stories of being saved by God for going to the meetings during natural disasters, etc.
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  newbie seeking others thoughts

  by brokenfairy in

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  basically i have been reading the bible lately & doing extensive research on the web and have come across many things in my search...any imput put on various scriptures or sites i would appreciate.... .

  first of all i found more than a few religions that resemble the teaching of the jw's...so can they honestly say they are the only ones with the "truth"?

  scriptures i came across in my studies this week (if you have any other translations of these same scriptures please quote them in ur response i have 2 kjvs as well as the nwt that i am using...thanks!

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  Hello and welcome! Just keep searching and don't rush into anything. You'll figure everything out eventually.
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  SOPRANOS

  by sandy in

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  2. entertainment

  any sopranos fans out there?

  i just started watching it from the 1st season this past fall.

  i love it!!!

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  I love that show, too. Yes Tony Soprano is SO SEXY! Pound for pound, he may just be the sexiest man alive! I love the Janice character too. She is so realistic. They are all so great. What other show is going to give us fat people having sex??
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  JW's protected from Tsunami by going to the meeting... from bethel

  by Max Divergent in

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  2. friends

  came across this from one of the "faithfull".... now just watch out now you inactive ones there's a tsunami looking for you, so just be sure you "keep you eyes on the prize ocean".

  just spoke to [some bethalite at a bethhell near you] last night.. she was telling us of the news regarding our brothers and sisters in the tsunami region.

  in one area all the brothers were at the meeting when it struck, except for one sister who was home sick and a 6 member family of inactive ones who were caught up in it because they hadn't gone to the meeting.

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  Is nobody but me skeptical enough now to believe that these types of "Bethel-sourced" stories are sheer fabrications? When I think about how they KNOW that 607 BCE is bullshit, that they REWROTE their history in the Proclaimer's Book, that they've DELIBERATELY MISQUOTED or partially quoted secular authorities to back up their ridiculous refutations of scientific theories, why believe obviously self-serving clap trap such as the above? They are liars, folks. Here's betting 9 out of 10 of all these lovely, "upbuilding" accounts we've heard over the years have been prevarications of the most intentional sort.

  Yup. Don't believe a word of it.
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  NEW BLOOD CARDS?

  by whyme in

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  -it's been awhile o.k .

  so at 17 i made the quick decison to just stop carrying around my blood card.

  i don't think i realized it then but i think that was when i decided to just free myself from the society.

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  Yeah, I'm not going to do it. They want you to have the name of the person who you select to make your medical decisions for you if you are not able to. I just cannot do this. No Way.
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  THE GENERATION OF 1914

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it makes you wonder when exactly the governing body and their lawyers decided to change the "generation of 1914" doctrine.

  the first quotation below is from the 1992 wt and the second one from the 1993 brochure the purpose of life, just two lousy years before they imfamously dropped the whole idea:

  *** w92 5/1 p. 7 the 1914 generation?why significant?

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  It will be interesting to watch what happens to the Witnesses over the years. I just hope I'm still around to see them completely crumble. That would be truly satisfying. Too bad it will just break off into splinter groups, pockets of people who can't let go of the power they think they have over other people. There will always be groups like this and people caught in their traps. Nothing you can do about that. But it would be sweet to see the this "organization" finished off.
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  "I can understand the reluctance of people giving to religious groups...."

  by TresHappy in

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  that's what evelyn in dallas said this morning on the local talk radio station.

  however before evelyn was cut off by the talk show host, evelyn said she knew of an organization in new york that would spend their contributions wisely.

  then the host asked what that was...that's the organization known as the watchtower society...then the talk show host asked her which group that was associated with them...she reluctantly said the jehovah's witnesses.. so there you have it folks, no organization will spend your contributions wisely unless it's the watchtower society, that is according to little ol' evelyn.

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  I can understand the reluctance of people giving to religious groups

  Wow, that sounds like it might have come straight out of the Reasoning From The Scriptures. Under the section on what to say on radio talk shows, I guess.
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  For those of us with active JW parents

  by JustTickledPink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there seem to a commonality around here about active jw parents shunning us.. my question is: if your parents weren't a jw, do you think they would be normal, act kindly, be a real parent to you?

  or would they still be cold and callused towards you, controlling, etc.

  my thought is this, so many times i used to think i wish my mom wasn't a jw because then i thought she would be this wonderful caring mother that i could go to lunch with, share shopping days with, recipes, and we'd be close.

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  I think I know what you are saying. I used to think that if only they never joined the JWs, we would have been such a great family, but I don't think so now. I've started to understand that there were major problems with my parents going way back before either of them became witnesses. They are so controlling it's not funny, and if they can't control you, they don't want you around.

  I just think the rigidity of the JW religion appealed to them, and they knew they would never have a problem with shunning. That, and they always need to have guarantees about everything which the JW religion so aptly provides. Of course, these guarantees aren't worth the paper they are printed on, but at least they give that warm & fuzzy feeling.
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  ever get that immortal feeling?

  by what_Truth? in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was watching an old highlander rerun a while.

  if you recall the show, the main character ducan mcleod was an immortal.

  as such he would always feel a strong yet undescribable presence everytime another immortal was around him.

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  It's funny that you said that. I had that same idea about how you get this sense about another person maybe being a witness, and then when you're right about it, it just blows your mind. Even the connection with the highlander, too! How funny. Great minds think alike...
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  Freedom or Bondage.....a Hard Choice for Many

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lately something has bothered me as regards to many on jwd who wonder what to do, once they have found the organisation to be a destructive, mind controling sect.

  aside from these ones deciding how to exit without causing a judicial meeting nor a stir among the publishers, it whether or not they want to risk their marriage and or family ties.. many on this site have related how their marriage fell to pieces because the dub mate could not accept their loved one "leaving jehovah", and they could never meet in the middle to save the marriage.

  others who leave, push their dub mate away by their constant verbal expressions against the organisation...because they think they should....hence, the marriage falls apart.. here's the hard part i don't know the answer to.

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  True enough. The problem with JWs is that the Organization trains them not to have real love for anyone other than JW leaders. Remember that old JW saw about marriage bonds being a "threefold cord" between Jehovah, the man and the woman? In JW practice, "Jehovah" is nothing more than the Governing Body, so when a person quits the JWs, the JW mate often thinks that the marriage bonds are broken and can treat the intelligent mate any way he or she pleases.

  I recently heard they have changed the suggested marriage vows to include something along the lines of promising to remain faithful to the organization. Has anyone else heard this? Sorry to get off-subject.