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  Armagedon, still looking like a dummie.

  by PinTail in

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  i was raised a witness for fifty years to watch world events, now i am aproching my retirement years and still no armagedon.

  where is it?

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  cyber-sista

  I'm sorry that you waited for so long. I waited for 20 years and then got disillusioned by many many things. I am trying to move ahead and get on with life and look back at my experience in the Org as an experience that was something unique to the majority. I am probably a more thinking person because of it and I probably appreciate some things more than the average person. Sleeping in on Saturdays--lazy Sunday morning breakfasts--Tues nights at home watching American idol (I admit it I like that show) and best of all not being told who I can and who I cannot love.... I can also unload some of some of the guilt and stress now such as: I am not doing enough for the Org--I am not performing enough--studying enough--etc, etc.

  It is strange though not to have a clear hope or answer for the future of humankind. I mean the whole Armegedon thing was such a grand conclusion to it all. It is a tradeoff for the freedom of being alive. Life is still a glorious mystery...I remain awestruck , but am no longer JW dumbstruck...
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  Yes or No----Do You Believe That JWs Are A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  i believe they are "cultlike" but i don't think they are a "cult"........and you?

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  cyber-sista

  Well, they don't run around in long robes beating on tamborines and chanting mantras or things of that sort, but they do separate people from society in general and from their "worldly" family and friends. By the latter I would say: YES, THEY ARE A CULT.
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  Need help to blow-off the elders

  by Roddy in

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  i guess i've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs.

  i got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call.

  i guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.. i need adivce on how to blow them off for the year.

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  cyber-sista

  Roddy,

  I think you could mention the depression thing, but in a way that was very unclear without giving too much information out--remember, you have the right to your privacy. Maybe say something like..." I am not feeling too well lately so it's would be best for me not to talk about things right now" Just something a bit vague.

  Or your could find a therapist tell him the story and then say...."My doctor tells me that it is best for me to rest now and avoid stressful situations, so it would be best for me not to discuss things right now" and then they might feel a bit of GUILT GUILT GUILT, but maybe not.

  GOOD LUCK (i can say that now too without the guilt)
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  No stumbling block

  by peacefulpete in

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  i felt it would be helpful to understand just how the wt is misapplying ps 119:165. if you are a person new to this board or only recently having questions please read this carefully and thoughtfully.

  the verse in discussion says.

  " great peace have they that love thy law, and there is no stumbling for them.

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  cyber-sista

  Interesting...I have thought about that one myself. I was recently questioned by somebody with a good knowledge of religion. I had mentioned the "stumbling block" thing and he felt this was something that was specifically a JW teaching, though I am not sure about this because the majority of my religious training has been by the Org.

  When I was having problems with my faith because of mistreatment,injustice and many other things to boot that whole stumbling block thing was thrown in my face several times. It is strange that suddenly it becomes your fault when you are hurt by injustice inflicted upon you. One JW told me that there is no stumbling block if you have enough faith. Another questioned me by saying "Are you going to allow this to be a stumbling block to you?" An elder told me "I know you have been stumbled, but blah blah blah"...

  Is this whole stumbling block thing just another JW doctrine? It is a very strange one when you think about it. It was used over and over again and there were many illustrations around it. I remember the one about the brother who falls down in the parking lot, but doesn't get up because he has been stumbled and how silly it is for this one to not get up after he has been stumbled and how would we feel about someone who just continued to lay there year after year...it made the stumbled person look like an idiot...
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  I'm Sorry, when I cry ....

  by Celtic in

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  i cry from a deep place.

  love.

  celty

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  cyber-sista

  I am rather new here and have been doing a lot of purging. I was really numb with grief for a long time over my whole Org experience and coming here and reading helped my tears to start flowing. It is good to get it out and have people here that you know can listen and understand...
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  Need help to blow-off the elders

  by Roddy in

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  i guess i've been away too long, the local circuit overseer is coming, or the local circuit overseer has come by already and got on the elders' backs.

  i got word from a relative that the elders would like to meet with me for a shepherding call.

  i guess to 'help' me go back to the meetings.. i need adivce on how to blow them off for the year.

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  cyber-sista

  An exiting therapist advised me to set up boundaries by using what I call the broken record routine. Come up with something very neutral like"it is really best if we don't meet right now". Or, "I have a lot on my mind and it is really best if I don't talk about it right now" and just use that one line for everything---no matter what they ask. Otherwise you don't have to give out any info. The neutral script takes their power away. they will eventually get weary of your repetitious answer and will go away. You can keep repeating it to them calmly and without any confrontation and then say goodbye, see you later and close the door, walk away or hang up the phone.. so far it has worked. It takes a lot of the stress away for now as I am too emotionally raw to deal with them right now. The broken record routine is easy and you don't have to stress about giving the right answer to all their questions, because the answer is always the same one...the best to you...
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  What's The Dumbest Thing Anyone Has Ever Told You?

  by minimus in

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  cyber-sista

  JW related - I had a sister tell me that Satan created all the dinosaur bones to try and mislead everyone.

  Dawn this is too funny...heard a lot of the usual dumb J-dub stuff but i can't seem to top this one right now...
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  COMING OUT PARANOIA?

  by ese in

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  hi - all these posts re "coming out" seem kind of paranoid or,what's the word or phrase, like delusions of grandeur, i mean no offense with this but it just seems like few jws would care who you are - at least now they wouldn't care if you done left already - am i missing something?

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  cyber-sista

  and again...many are hiding because they are paranoid of losing their families, their friends, their minds. The WT has a lot of control over peoples lives--their doctrines of beliefs enforced upon people with threats of punishment of losing your life and loved ones being separated from you. The elders in the cong can make a single decision for you that can change your life forever--parents separated from children/vice versa--loved ones dying for refusing blood. I was naive once and thought there were stop gap measures that were set up in this "loving org" such as circuit overseers to take care of in a case of injustice, or the society would certainly always be there to come to the rescue--someone would always be there to protect the innocent--Forgive me--I was so very wrong.
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  COMING OUT PARANOIA?

  by ese in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi - all these posts re "coming out" seem kind of paranoid or,what's the word or phrase, like delusions of grandeur, i mean no offense with this but it just seems like few jws would care who you are - at least now they wouldn't care if you done left already - am i missing something?

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  cyber-sista

  Many of us have been abused in one way or another. Some refer to it as spiritual rape--some have been physicaly molested. Some of us are being stalked to one degree or another by the elders. Yes, it sounds paranoid, but if you have had that kind of experience you would understand what it feels like to be a victim of the WT cult.
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  If You Could Tell Brooklyn Just One Thing

  by Englishman in

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  you're angry and thoroughly pissed off with all things apertaining to jehovah's witnesses.. you also know that this thread will be read by active jw's.

  some of those jw's will be in the brooklyn bethel right now, reading what you write.. so, is there one thing, one belief, one policy, that, if it were to be changed or anulled, would mollify you?.

  is there one change that they could make that would stop or lessen the active antagonism that you feel against the wt?.

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  cyber-sista

  You have inflicted immense suffering and death upon thousands because you only care about yourselves, your egos and the financial prospering of the Org. I wrote and begged for your help and you threw me out in the cold--no thanks for all my years I worked for you with no pay.