Posts by cyber-sista

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JWs--cult or am i just bitter?

by sinamongurl in

after reading many experiences and comments on the board, i have begun to have questions.

questions that i really didnt know i until i read them.

as a recently df'd person, i am still struggling with whether jws are really a cult or is it just that im bitter for being torn away from the only thing that i knew, where i had friends that i thought loved me.

cyber-sista

Sinamon,

When I was exiting the Org I went through a period of extreme guilt. Even though I knew I could never set foot in a KH again because of all that had happened to myself and what I saw others going through I still felt a lot of guilt. I also felt very alone like I was the only one in the world that this was happening to. When I reached the end of my rope I figured I might as well just look around to see if there was any who had been through similar things. I found a couple of other websites and organizations that were helpful to me and identified JWs as a cult along with some other similiar groups who use similiar tecniques on their members. I soon discovered there were thousands out there such as myself who had been through some of the same experiences. YOU ARE NOT ALONE! Yes, it is a high controlling cult like money making Organization. I was in a state of shock at first, but am recovering with the help of this board and some professional therapy. I would suggest professional help. There are many issues to deal with when you are exiting the Org and it really helps to have the support. There is life beyond the Organization

All the best to you,

cybs

PS. If you can find a therapist who is familiar in dealing with those exiting cults. I found one in my small town. Most psycologists know how to help people who have been involved in abusive controlling relationships, such as what we had with the WTBTS.

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Disfellowshipping

by Klaus Vollmer in

hi folks, i have heard the latest news that in germany it is no more announced on the platform, when someone is disfellowshipped.. this fact in future will only be given privately to the brothers.. has anybody heard that too?

is that a typical german way because the seltersbrothers demand the status of a church to save taxes and get public subvention.. since 1990 they are keen to get this privlege but at present time they stay where they begun.. i remember when i studied with the witnesses some decades ago that an elder mentioned: we never would become church.

that is the key to concordates with the state, jehovahs witnesses would losse their clean status before god.. and now since the 90ies they change their doctrines in sbustituting military services and so on.. frere kelsey - vieux homme sans moustache, le duc des boissons du selters, pourquoi is est va comme ca?

cyber-sista

Maybe they will pass out a flier each month to inform the congo of the status of each member.....or more likely instead of announcing it from the public forum at the KH it will be annouced at the smaller bookstudy groups (in that way the possibility of public slander would be more curtailed)

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Experience about not bringing our own food to the convention

by NikL in

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friends

isn't this special?

this is an e mail making the rounds......

remember the letter that was read to all congregations regarding going out to get food during the break.

cyber-sista

In the early 90s we had the summer assembly at the Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto. Luckily I got into the Carton Inn just next to the Maple Leaf gardens. It was over 100 degrees out side and the inside of the gardens was over a 100 and it was one of toronto's heat waves. YOu know the speale no out doors to eat stay with family yada yada yada. How obeyed? not me and many didn't comply. It was like an easy bake oven in the gardens. So being in the CArlton Inn was a blessing. I had to change my clothes several times a day to pure persperation. I was soaked. So to hell with it I went out of the Gardens, went to my room and would order room service or I would go out to a resturant and enjoy the air condtioning. I have asthma too so breathing in that place was impossible.

Orangefatcat.

This reminds me of when they used to have assemblies down in LA--I believe it was Dodger's outdoor stadium or one similar to this. I never had the "privledge" of attending one of these, but supposedly they were a true test of endurance as the heat was unbearable. One very faithful sister told me about her experiences there, such as the time she took her bible student who got heat exhaustion and spent half the time throwing up in the bathroom with many others who attended doing the same. But the strange thing was this sister didn't take this women home, but encouraged her to endure the torture as many others did, because it was the right thing to do. This was the same sister who always brought up the fact that she attended the assembly the four day assembly the day after her baby was born. She said she was really in bad shape and it was very difficult, but she said when Jehovah says go--you go--you always obey no matter what--she really scares me now.

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Lurkers! The Watchtower's Hour of Test is Here

by metatron in

while the watchtower is asset rich, contributions are another matter entirely.

passive-aggressive witnesses are skipping.

meetings and walking past lonely contribution boxes.

cyber-sista

The last couple of COs I experienced reminded me of cold hearted businessmen. They came into the congo smacked everybody on the side of the head and left. My true-self mind thought they were assholes, but my JW counterpart mind told me that they were righteous brothers dedicated to doing God's will (fortunately that JW mind is quickly fading away). I have often wondered if someday soon the Org starts to sell off some of it's investment properties (the Kingdom halls) and just leaves its members high and dry without anywhere to go. A wise investment company shifts its assets when they are no longer bringing in profit.

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Which Posters Would You Like To Hear From More???

by minimus in

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friends

i saw that jt, the ex bethel heavy posted again.

i miss his thoughts.

also leander has some very interesting threads.......who would you enjoy seeing posting more often??

cyber-sista

Flower!!!

I missed seeing you here for a while. Were you gone?--or maybe answering some different posts than me. Good to see you!!!

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Governing Body Stories

by GenericMan in

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friends

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i was wondering if anybody here has any stories about members of the governing body?

has anyone here personally met one of them?.

cyber-sista

We had a few of them as special speakers at assemblies I attended over the years. I remember have a few close encounters with a couple of them briefly shaking hands or something of that sort, but nothing too personal.. A couple of things that stand out for me is that they were all very long winded and at the end of one very long assembly day the final speaker (the GB member with the English accent) went overtime about 45 minutes and in my evil little heart I thought to myself that I just wanted it to end. My back hurt and I was getting real aggravated that he just kept droning on and on. I thought it was a bit disrepectful as the brothers were always counceled to not go overtime, but I guess he felt he had the right and of course nobody said anything except to comment on what an excellent talk it was (My mind thought boring talk, but my JW counterpart mind had to program excellent talk!).

The other GB member who stood out was the one who wore the fancy looking shoes and suit. He was dressed to the hilt and had a very pompous expression on his face and didn't smile, but had a scowling expression on his face. (My mind said I don't like this guy, but my JW counterpart mind said he had the right to be an asshole because he was one of the annointed--sometimes even my JW counterpart mind rebelled when I tried to program it)

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That They Be Called Shepherds

by Farkel in

i recently put up a thread which discussed the fact that the wts does not hesitate to promote and sell books containing "old light" to its membership and the public.

well, that thread was about material things and to a lesser extent spiritual things.. how does the wts feel about spiritual things?

let's take a peek.

cyber-sista

What I have seen is that the average JW who tries to keep up with their JW routine does not have time to care for the weak, sick or the elderly. Usually there are a couple of kindhearted sisters here and there who do most of the caregiving if need be. These examples get brought out in the magazines or at aseemblies, so it appears as if the JWs are the most loving caring wonderful people in the world. But I have always seen others (non-JWs) caring for their friends and family the same if not more, but they will never get the credit for doing so because they are wicked evil Satanic beings according to the WT Org. I used to point this out to the JWs years ago before I joined the Org. The down pat answer was....Yes, good works are commendable, but doing the God's will is what will bring everlasting life. How I ever fell for this line of BS I will never know...I was in the Org for 8 years before I had a shepherding call. I can count 5 of them in 20 plus years. Can you feel the love?

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Will I die at Armageddon?

by sinamongurl in

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friends

the anwser is: know one really knows but jehovah.. i have been df'd for 3 years now.

i still struggle with: "should i go back cuz i dont want to die" .

but then its not really for the "right" reason.

cyber-sista

Sinamon,

Please do your own investigation of the Wt society. Many here have already done so. It is interesting when you see what the true origins of the teachings are. Knowing the real truth about the WT Org will help you to break free from your fear. It is not a wholesome organization, but has done much harm to many. Maybe you realize that on some levels already. It takes a while to break free from a controlling cult. Please get some help (professional if you can) and keep reading the stories of what others have been through. And please be assured there is life after the Watchtower and you can find it too.

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Hospital Liason Committee?

by Blueblades in

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friends

is it disbanded?

cyber-sista

Was involved in a situation with a JW relative bleeding to death. We immediately called the elders in the congo who had the scoop on the liason thing. They came to the emergency waiting room and sat there with us, bibles in hand and that was it. The family had to talk to the doctors and get this relative to another hospital where he could receive treatment. The relative underwent emergency surgery in a large city hospital. The liason committee in that city was called (supposedly), but they never showed up (said they got the times mixed up). This is one of the many things that started me to thinking maybe this Org was not all as organized as it touted itself to be. Also the treatments that the WT suggested for massive blood loss (the hormones to stimulate blood production, etc. etc.) were not anything that the doctors at this very large big city cutting edge university hospital were familiar with using. Everything I had heard about and read about in the magazines in regards to this wonderful liason committee seemed bogus when put into actual practice. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but where I don't know--makes me wonder if it is not just another WT illusion.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-20-04 WT Study (5-1-04 issue)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 6-20-04 wt study (5-1-04 issue)(abbreviated)

only these are my fellow workers for the kingdom of god, and these very ones have become a strengthening aid to me.

imagine it took 6 years before they called on that inactive couple!.

cyber-sista

Thanks Blondie,

Again, the WT is so far removed from reality. I went missing in the Org after 20 plus years of faithful service and I have not experienced any of this loving "encouragement" that the Org speaks of. I only see judgment from others--congo members and their superiors-- I don't at all see the love and concern that is spoken of in this article. These articles divide the spiritually "strong" fror the spiritually "weak" and give those "strong" ones (judgmental ones) their continual ego feeding to maintain their feelings of superiority towards those "lesser" than themselves.

cybs