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  Brooklyn waterfront sold

  by Aaac in

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  watchtower building sold .

  the jehovah's witnesses have made a deal to sell their 1 million-square-foot building on the brooklyn waterfront to ral development services, a residential development company.

  the purchase price for the 12-story building, at 360 furman st., was not disclosed.

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  jeece, somehow I bet this whole sale will somehow be 'evidence of God's' blessing on His one true organization.

  i ain't giving .02 to the society for nuttin no more....

  boa
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  Privileges, are they really?

  by JH in

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  from the smallest to the biggest task in the organization, they will call it a privilege.

  cleaning the toilet, passing the microphone, saying a prayer in public and so on.

  did you consider each task they gave you to be a privilege?

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  boa

  blacksheep you said J has a

  please-o-meter.

  and I Laughed Out Loud for a while. Thanks for that.

  Since I do not feel being part of the wts is no more a privilege than standing in front of a firing squad, the answer is obvious.

  However, I agree with ignorance is strength that it is a good thing bringing true reward to assist others although I wouldn't call it a privilege, more like a noble endeavour which brings rewards to both the giver and receiver, whereas

  The Random House Dictionary says of privelege: n 1. a special right or benefit enjoyed by a particular person or group and v.t. 2) to grant a privilege to

  boa

  who actually has 'privileges' at the hall since they don't know the 'real' me heh heh....yet.
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  What books are in the Bethel Library?

  by badboy in

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  Quotes, been in that library at the canada legal department when on our new bethelite introductory tour which is more extensive than the one normal dubs get.

  AlanF - I haven't researched it, but I heard there was something out there that debunked the wts debunking effort of the Nazi meeting hall 'scandal'. Looking forward to his new book. Can you tell us any more about other things that will be in it? I just ordered his 'other' book from commentary press the other day.

  I guess it was bound to happend that the wts would p off the wrong people in the wrong time period - ie, the information age and said people would have no problem returning in kind the treatment they received.

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  Would You Care If You Got Disfellowshipped At This Point In Time?

  by minimus in

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  just wondering....

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  Ruby - baptized at 15 which basically meant I could answer some q's in a 'disorganized' book but I didn't have the life experience or 'accurate knowledge' of the lying wts to helping me make an 'informed' decision. I was born into a jw home and raised with one viewpoint and one set of beliefs - no different than the accusing finger pointed by jws at people of other religions who are born catholics, baptists etc.

  Then I learn much later in life cuz people don't like to talk about it cuz it's 'negative', that there is no acceptable way to leave 'Jehovah's' organization and this is a real crock showing all too well it is a very unhealthy mind-controlling cult to say the least. Far better it would have been for me to be an average 'worldly-person' free to associate at least somewhat with my beloved family, then an outsider labeled an 'apostate' for jeece sake.

  Yer new here - WELCOME to JWD! Don't take my words too harshly but just in case yer wondering YOU could just as easily be labeled an APOSTATE for being here consorting with disassociated and disfellowshipped people. Please stay around - read a few threads and get a feel for the real 'truth' out there! I double - dog dare yah.

  boa....feeling a lil' ornery right now.

  ps - I am not df'd or da'd Ruby
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  If The Watchtower Allowed You To Ask A Question From Readers......

  by minimus in

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  what would your question be?

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  boa

  Since it can be proven that 1)door to door preaching is not the primary way of disciple-making taught or recommended in the Bible. 2) that much if not most of the literature is thrown away by jws and 'householders' and that 3) this is leading to the situation where the wts is part of those God will 'bring to ruin' for 'ruining the earth' with all this garbage, please explain how you are then really 'preaching this good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth'?

  Also, please explain why the wt writers are anonymous since any self-respecting professional journalist does this, not necessarily for notariety, but for credibility?

  Please explain why you EVER use terms such as 'one expert says', 'many have stated', 'the facts show' without naming those sources and the facts, again, for credibility?

  boa

  fuming now after reading these AWESOME QFRs you folks have....guess I should start up Halo and kill some convenant.
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  Did The "Ressurection Hope" Keep You Involved As A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i know a number of persons that remained as jws because they desperately wanted to see their loved ones come back from the grave and be there to welcome them.

  they were afraid that if they died at armageddon or were not totally faithful that there would be a great possibility of never seeing them again........was that "ressurection hope" a big draw for you remaining a witness?

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  YES, and its another beautiful day today, and my children are still here with me, so is the wife - LIFE IS GOOD!

  I never could understand the whole '2nd chance' idea for everlasting life - it brings up too many questions - far more than it answers imo.

  hoping nonjw die before the big A so they can get another chance is sick and twisted and although I didnt' hope this myself, I did believe it for a long time - sick sick sick.

  boa
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  DO YOU BELIEVE ARMAGEDDON WILL EVER COME?

  by Mary in

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  sometimes i look at the world and i think "man, how much longer can it go on?

  " sometimes i think perhaps armageddon will come in my life-time.

  the one scripture i always think of is the one in revelation where it says that jehovah "will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth.

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  jeece, larry, a new thought is always available from someone, thank you.

  jgnat - yer too kind and a FAR deeper thinker than I - I worship the pages you type on (and chat ain't do bad either)

  gumby - exactly why I don't trust them for anything they say that is uniquely jw teaching - must be corroborated from somewhere else IN context and WAIT a while cuz the SURE thing may turn out to be total BS after a few short years - see what their stance is on rape and what a woman should do and how it is viewed as its changed over the years.

  boa...just had chili...a deep stinker now...
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  I HAVE A POOL!!!!

  by tazmanian russel in

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  growing up as a jdub had a lot of annoying things involed with it..one of my favs was..haveing a pool!!!

  this is what went through every familys mind in my hall...well well ..the so and so family have a pool and its hot out and we having nothing to do ...soooo lets go swimin!....um mommy the smiths r in our back yard again ..and now they r swimming ...oh dont worry , go get them a towl from the pool house..this is how it started , then it got worse and worse...we are thirsty wah..we want to play with the video games ..what are we a community centre all of a sudden...oh oh now they r getting really nervey..we are hungry!!!

  well i guess u might as well stay for supper ...do u have enough?

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  OOPS, pleeeeasse forgive - WELCOME Tasmanian Russell!

  and Sebastian too! WELCOME!

  boa...in welcoming mood....also in the mood for a swim....
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  The New and Improved JWs Now With 3 classes of Christians!

  by XQsThaiPoes in

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  the study articles are amazing.

  i can't tell if anyone caught it but they are ground breakingly incompetent.

  the have redefined 1914, the anointed, fds and the "evil slave".

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  zen nudist - great point and great avatar. The whole unFaithful and inDiscrete Slave Ruling Class Few has virtually nothing to do with what the scriptures say and their own claims. sheesh

  cyber-sista, Yah, i've heard about a similar group that'll be taking over on earth after the big A - the BETHELITES. Its not a joke and its talked about from the platform at bethel meetings.

  boa

  ...never did like that assumption about bethelites being the new worlds earthly ruling class....
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  Calling all Bethelites

  by Nadsam in

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  when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!

  stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!

  )longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !

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  k, bbq over, buzz over, ready to answer q from u

  Breakfast/daytext/table overseer.

  Most of the breakfast items themselves were good. Orderly sitting under the watchful eye of the table head (especially as a bethel newb) sucked. Double prayer seemed dumb. Accidents such as the waiter boy dumping a box of cereal on someone's lap one time were far too rare imo LOL

  Monday night WT study

  Sucked - Like I want ANOTHER night taken up with a meeting - dressing up -again- , associating with some people I see WAY too much already, - never mind being on 'showcase showdown' where you're in the front and centre rows cuz you have to comment (on video for the other sites as well). (I think I'll start a thread about something funny to do with these remote sights actually)

  Tuesdays Bookstudy at one of the Local Cong.

  Sucked - 45 min travel each way. First BS group had major problems inside too many to list. Second one had the po as conductor and he was kinda fanatical/nutty about a lotta things.

  Wednesday evening fieldservice

  Jeece, I was already a 'special full-time pioneer' wasn't I? But certain 'regular' service was required too, so I often did wed eve service to get a few hrs - wife and I loved our weekends to ourselves WAY too much I guess.

  Thursdays parts on the service meeting

  Other than MORE time taken up from doing anything else - like thinking for myself snick snick, it was what it was.

  Fridays "family evening" / evening fieldservice

  Nope, even in bethel, I didn't mess with T.G.I.F.

  Saturdays Quick Build Hall construction assistance

  Was a fun change of pace not doing a directly 'theocratic' activity. Also, got to see the hotties in denim.

  SUNDAYS FIELD SERVICE/MEETING/LATE SUPPER

  Bottom line - service on weekends sucked - wednesday wasn't too bad cuz the day was shot anyway. The meeting was what it was - woulda had ta go whether in bethel or not. Late supper good cuz you could just run down, pick something up and go to your room

  Daily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessions

  Actually, didn't know they did this on purpose. Wife was in housekeeping and I just asked her and she said they were told to NOT snoop. However, if things were inappropriately left out, it wasn't supposed to be ignored. ie wine bottles to be kept out of sight. Not sure what they were supposed to do about Penthouse. I suspect much snooping was done because of gd nosy housekeepers.

  Car pools

  Majorly sucked due to I like my mobile freedom thanks very much. That and the couple we were paired up with had a little shitey car (on the 401 that sucks) and couldn't drive well (especially the wife - no sterotype intended. heh heh thats a fact anyway - jk!). Fortunately we all didn't get along very well so we made many excuses to have to use our own car and things worked out much better that way. Bethel encourages carpooling for obvious reasons, no doubt one of which is for the 'experienced' bethel couple yer paired with can keep and eye on you imo. Just like the tablehead.

  Allowance day

  Just like 'welfare wednesday' imo. Very happy day and good times were sure to follow if you had enough for a bottle. Bethel abuzz with action getting yer loot. I mean $125 X 2 makes a dent doncha think? Especially paying that dentist bill cuz you weren't at bethel long enough to be allowed the free work.

  Laundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothing

  PITA - Pain In The Ass - thus wife often did our own laundry cuz it was easier than the rules/procedure plus you could take care of your own 'naughties' instead of having them available for everyone to gawk at. Remember everything is labeled and traceable to you to make the laundry system work. Didn't have missing clothing or badly sewn

  Boring library

  As a fully immersed dubbie, I thought the library was great. Since I didn't have time to read much else except dubbie info, I didn't really notice how boring it was. I wish a copy of COC was in there though, you never know, I might of dabbled a little and saved a lot of time 'figuring things out' over the last 5 yrs.

  farm duty !!! stalls vs $#IT vs gardening

  I didn't have farm duty per se except I did chicken kill. It was a great way to get extra time in leiu from your regular work day. Also, change of pace and scenery which, never forget, are always valuable, cherished things.

  Inking the press!

  Had nothing to do with this.

  Digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loading

  Nope, I was a trades person so 'above' such lowly activities heh heh - jk! (about the 'lowly' part)

  Nasty crotch grabbin roomies

  I like it when my wife is both 'nasty' and 'crotch grabbin' - its sweet and nice and damn - we did a lot of that - its cheap entertainment.

  Not gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomies

  See above - never got more before or since that place - not sure why. And they're were some real hotties there for 'mental fuel' snick snick - LOL

  Lousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!)

  Didn't really need it - boa =healthy like horse (hung like one too if you believe the rumours)

  Longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....

  Sometimes....I remember my first 'meal' prayer - nervewracking, short and sweet. Jeece, how many different ways can you pray about the same things anyway? On the other hand there was a bro who in his 'after breakfast pre-work' prayer (and I believe he was either branch committee or some other high up) would basically say - Jehovah, help us in our daily work, in Jesus name, Amen. The absolute shortest prayers I've ever heard! Most of the long prayers were from up-and-comers and newbies imo.

  Old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !

  Sad state for any man or woman to be in and I won't make fun of it.

  Assembly sound duty OMG!

  Nope, didn't do it.

  Food Service overseeing

  Nope.

  Parking attendant work

  Yes, another opportunity to check out hotties, especially while they were sitting in a car and opening the door, and getting out and stuff. sighhhh.

  Apostate lookout/Security work (it does exist guys !)

  It existed, but I didn't get to be a part of that team.

  That wake up bell OMG OMG OMG !!

  Definitely sucked. While they're at this, they should also pipe in subliminal music/messages over the speaker while you're sleeping.

  boa's been there and it was quite a ride.....