Blinded from birth in 'the way'.
Began to regain sight when Brain hit reset switch in late 20's.
Am now thanking Brain with its beverage of choice - Vodka.
hey!
shotguns post got me thinking.
post your story is 3 sentences or less, if possible.
Blinded from birth in 'the way'.
Began to regain sight when Brain hit reset switch in late 20's.
Am now thanking Brain with its beverage of choice - Vodka.
one of the elderly sisters in my moms hall just passed away she was around 95 she was such an active witness all her years i remember from a young boy and she was always talking about how near armaggedon was ,anyway i bumped into her at the hall a few years back and she was around 90 and she was telling me how she can't believe how armagedon did not come yet and that when she was a young girl the org.
was telling her it was right around the corner anyway after all that hope she never saw it , it made me sad that she passed and how the years fly by.anyways i just wanted to share this with everyone.
thanks for sharing that......a sad story and one that, has occured/ is occuring/ will occur, many times over again....sigh
I remember as one of my early 'trigger' points out of the org, the thought of so many people never having children (but they wanted to) and not preparing for retirement, because of false expectations inflamed by the org. People in their old age delivering flyers (not that there's anything wrong with that lol) to make ends meet....sheesh. Something didn't seem right about all of it though it would take many years before it and all the other reasons would give me the strength to leave....
boa
i just finished commenting on minimus' thread (oh man, i hope it was his thread now...not enough coffee yet to be fully brained today...).
anyway, it was the thread on how everyone was choosing to leave/has left from the org.
i hate with a passion the fact that i was judged while in the wts.
(((((((CeriseRose)))))))) take care...your thoughts are beautiful and finds a place in my own feelings.....
boa
(minimus, yer too much!)
this may already have been posted, but if not i am sure that carl jonsson will forgive my linking his review of furuli's book from another site,.
http://user.tninet.se/~oof408u/fkf/english/furulirev.htm .
best regards - hs.
hello bavman.....
a simple synopsis as you can see may involve people giving you reasonable conclusions (see ajwexelder) or silly hollow fluff (see 'scholar'). The fact that scholar is extremely deceitful in saying his synopsis of jonssons understanding is based on a word in a scripture immediately discredits him/her irrepairably for me. Uhhh, bullsh*t is another word for what he suggested.
If you want to be informed...order carl olaf jonsson's books and read up! They are very well written, have the 'ring of truth' and show very conclusively that the 'oppositions' pitiful reasoning regarding 607, 1914, or any other jw 'chronology' is very messed up like virtually all other apocalyptic sects. You KNOW this is true when the SOCIETY itself does not refute the EVIDENCE but resorts to trying to discredit ALL secular sources for ancient dating (see appendix 14 of 'Let Your Kingdom Come', EXCEPT those which seem to support SOME of their dates EXCEPT these sources also bring much great SUPPORT to the 587/586 date for Nebuchadzezzars 18/19th year of rule.
The above ALONE is all that is needed for the 'rank & file', and all the other NON-scholars (like me) to reason for themselves that the jw understanding is seriously flawed and is cascading towards total failure in the future! However, I still continue to read and learn the whole picture to be better informed so I can consider all the relevant information.
boa
trying to reason with a devout jehovah's witness is like........
is like yelling at a slug for being blind and leaving a trail of slime wherever it goes!
quite a while ago an older sister stopped by my door, and stupid me, i let her know my life story in a nutshell.
faded for 7 years, former ministerial servant, blah blah blah.
i think the reason i did it is that she reminded me of my mom and she caught me at a weak moment.
I concur catchthis.....seems like the most obvious, logical, and sensible reason to me as well....
boa
just a little tid bit that probably is more fluff than stuff.. .
when i attend an elders school in escondito,,ca i think it was maybe 1992 (r maybe it was later in central ca not sure of that detail) samuel herd (then a do) and merlton campbell (sevice dept.
) conducted the school.
da gb makes da rules and dey can damn well breaks dem
really, this shouldn't be a problem for them to do go overtime.....its their organization, they can do whatever they want...
I remember glen howe at canada bethel going overtime as much as he bloody well wanted to when it was his turn for morning worship comments (normally only 1 minute if I remember correctly), and no one would stop him in the slightest.....ahhhh membership (at the top of canada's jw legal team) has its privileges.....
boa
welcome to the forum, i received your pm but alas i cannot pm back.
i am having problems with my imac, so i thought i would say i here.
i am between hartford and oconomowoc in a town called rubicon.
A big ol' boa welcome to ya Snapdragon!
apparently, the 'weak' can be stumbled by pretty much anyone...especially if its the prominent or 'strong' ones doing something 'stumbling'....yet the 'weak' should know better and not allow themselves to be stumbled!
its circular and I agree with those who said it is a control mechanism which is why I plan to use it against THEM if I am questioned on my 'fade' - standard reply will be - 'I've been terribly stumbled however, it wouldn't be right for me to discuss it with you.' Short and sweet.
In a sense its true....I've been stumbled from this organization by the men at the top and all they have built up once I got to know the REAL truth!
boa
there are a lot of websites that have the scans that prove the watchtower joined the u.n.. .
it is enough for most to see this- however some of us have friends/relatives who are still "plugged-in" and seeing a downloaded scan ( which are a bit fuzzy) with a web-address from websites that are clearly ex-jw completely deflate the value - since they "can't be authentic- they're from apostates>>>!!!--".
are there ways to get an ngo book?
Hi jorl! and Welcome to JWD!
I realize you're looking for a hardcopy of some of the UN NGO scandal info. However, as some have posted above, all the valid information is on the official UN website, and remember, the watchtower society has NOT denied they were an NGO! The question for any JW shouldn't be - Were they an NGO associated with the UN? but WHY and HOW could this happen?
Here is a link
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/71195/1127385/post.ashx#1127385
to a thread in which I posted the official UN links for 3 seperate and important pieces of the WTS NGO UN scandal. As well, there is a link to the original article from the Guardian (UK online newspaper) which exposed the wts involvement as a NGO. Just scroll down on the first page to my post.
There are other links too that show that the wts claim it was for a 'library card' and that 'we quit being an NGO after the requirements changed' as a smokescreen and untrue. (those links are not official UN links)
hope this helps
boa