Our family was also seen as "spiritually weak".
Of course when you're a kid, that means target practice for the kids of "spiritually strong" parents
and were you ever looked down upon?
Our family was also seen as "spiritually weak".
Of course when you're a kid, that means target practice for the kids of "spiritually strong" parents
as i explained in my first thread i left when i was 18, but first started doubting at the age of 11, after a specific incident.
i'd like to tell that story now.
sorry if it seems long-winded, but i've only just been dealing with this one, and i've been carrying it round for 20 years.
seeitallclearlynow:
Many elders are very caring just like many publishers and pioneers, but still, since they are our "leaders" and exemplars, we have a right to expect them all to be that way
I agree. I freely admit that the incident has clouded my view of elders and I am sure there were some who genuinely cared. My memories of them always seem to be negative though.
Some people simply dismiss children anyway. They are contemptible.I couldn't agree more. It is shameful to brush the concerns of children aside - no matter how trivial.
as i explained in my first thread i left when i was 18, but first started doubting at the age of 11, after a specific incident.
i'd like to tell that story now.
sorry if it seems long-winded, but i've only just been dealing with this one, and i've been carrying it round for 20 years.
As I explained in my first thread I left when I was 18, but first started doubting at the age of 11, after a specific incident. I'd like to tell that story now. Sorry if it seems long-winded, but I've only just been dealing with this one, and I've been carrying it round for 20 years. But here goes...
Picture the scene: An April Saturday afternoon, just after the end of the special assembly day programme. My congregation was on the rota for assembly-hall cleaning and our car-group was driven by Brother Super-Elder, so we were all in for an extra hard dose of scrubbing. Great fun for the 11 year old nevergotwet!
Before beginning my bout of cleaning, I needed to ?use the lovingly-provided facilities?. So I excused myself from the group and made my way to the men's room.
As I was just finishing off, the door swung open, and in staggered a man, almost on the point of collapse, made it to the basin, where he was taken extremely ill. This man was clearly in need of medical help, and I did not know what to do. My first thought was find someone who does. So being one of ?Jehovah's little helpers? I thought: ?I know, I'll go and tell an elder, he'll know what to do."
I was panicked by this man's difficulties, but as I exit the men's room, I spot someone who took one of the assembly parts that afternoon. Knowing that he was more than likely an elder, I approached him.
I said to him that there was a man in the toilet, that he was very ill and needed first aid.
The ?loving shepherd? replies: ?can't you see I'm busy!?
I cried with panic and worry and went to find my mum, who was tucked away in the depths of the hall. I never told her about this, I was too upset.
I often think about that man and whether he got the help he needed ? and sometimes I think maybe I could have done more to aid him.
After that experience, I never looked at elders in the same light again. I was scared of them after that (strangely, even after I left), but now I just feel contempt.
Thanks for letting me vent.
i've been lurking around these parts for a while and thought it was time to make a post, although one or two of you have come across me when i wandered into chat a few weeks back.
just a quick intro: .
i'm early 30's, was involved with the dubs since birth, but made the break when i was 18 to go to university (culture shock!).
Glenmore:
Are you near Southend
Very near.
PM me, and we'll talk further about it.
On second thoughts, check your PMs
did it seem strange to you, almost surreal?
it's happened to me several times.
about 2 years after i was df'd, hl and i were newly weds heading for a weekend in london.
Carmel:
I was as welcome as a fart in a diving helmet or the bastard child at the family picnic.
LOL!
I have a friend who is a priest and he once told me he'd like to go to the public talk wearing his cassock.
I wonder what the reaction would be then?
i've been lurking around these parts for a while and thought it was time to make a post, although one or two of you have come across me when i wandered into chat a few weeks back.
just a quick intro: .
i'm early 30's, was involved with the dubs since birth, but made the break when i was 18 to go to university (culture shock!).
Bubbamar:
And congrats on never baptizing yourself into the WTBTS!! Smart one!!
Thanks! I must agree that it was a good move.
I was lucky as my mother told me I should make my own decision and be old enough to understand what a serious step it is.
I had my doubts about the JWs ever since I was 11, so by the time I stopped going, I was already pretty unconvinced by what they had to say. I'll write about the incident that turned me around at some point when I have time.
did it seem strange to you, almost surreal?
it's happened to me several times.
about 2 years after i was df'd, hl and i were newly weds heading for a weekend in london.
I've never been back, but my last meeting was a memorial. It was the first (and last) meeting one non-believing member of my family went to.
He was astounded at the lack of genuine welcome, and coouldn't believe the stuff he was hearing. His summary: A load of rubbish!
That sealed the deal for me. I never returned.
i've been lurking around these parts for a while and thought it was time to make a post, although one or two of you have come across me when i wandered into chat a few weeks back.
just a quick intro: .
i'm early 30's, was involved with the dubs since birth, but made the break when i was 18 to go to university (culture shock!).
Special K:
Could that mean .. You never got baptized. If not.. GREAT!!..
nevergotwet... there has got to be a good story there.
Oh, who am I kidding? I can't make that stuff up as well as the dubs! It was because I never got baptised!
i've been lurking around these parts for a while and thought it was time to make a post, although one or two of you have come across me when i wandered into chat a few weeks back.
just a quick intro: .
i'm early 30's, was involved with the dubs since birth, but made the break when i was 18 to go to university (culture shock!).
Thanks for your welcome. I feel at home here already!
jws are told to always be on the watch.
always be ready.
be alert in the "time of the end".
I couldn't help wincing whenever a politician mentioned the words "peace" and "security" in the same breath.