Posts by XQsThaiPoes

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Has anyone else heard this prediction?

by Mulan in

i heard a discussion on fox news last night about a surprise at the republican convention this week.

i cannot remember the analyst's name but he was basing it on several factors: dick cheney has cancelled all public appearances scheduled for this week (tv and radio interviews,etc)john mccain is speaking at the convention tonight (monday)tomorrow john mccain leaves ny to join the president in the west for two days of personal appearances and campaigningboth of them return to ny for the convention and the acceptance speech on thursdaylots of buzz at the convention about a big surprise coming during the week.. the prediction is that cheney will announce that his doctor has advised him that his health may not stand another 4 years as vp and that bush will announce john mccain as his running mate.

did anyone else hear this?

XQsThaiPoes

6. And Jehovah puts it in the heart of the beast to devour the harlot babylon the great.

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ATTN bethel lurkers. A way for the WTBS to make a TON more money

by avishai in

jw
friends

bill hicks did a routine about the guys who attempted (one succeeded) and their parents who sued the band judas priest for supposed subliminal messages urging them to kill themselves.

he came up with the point, "why would you want to kill your audience?

they are who brings in the money!!!!!!

XQsThaiPoes

Sam Herd gave a talk about that. He said if they wanted to have more member they would simply stop disfellowshipping people, and stop going out in feild service. Then he added the rib, "but then we would be just another church".

So if they make a talk about this you know what they think in private AV.

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Old People Ask

by ballistic in

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friends

ok, i was reading the awake article thread, and i thought, we have "yound people ask" but no "old people ask" so what about some article titles for the old?.

old people ask: "why has the new system been *just around the corner* for over 100 years?".

old people ask: "why didn't i save for my retirement?".

XQsThaiPoes

"What is that slogan we used to have... millions... dieing... alive. You know the one! Dang it! Its on the tip of my tongue! Wait was it Merry Christmas?"

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A Question For JW's Concerning Sticking To Their Own Kind...?

by Mr Parody in

i'm not a witness myself, i'm not even religious, but i know this younger woman who is.

i thought we hit it off pretty well.

i became attracted to her by her beauty, then infatuated by her kindness, and sweet personality...then i found out she was a jw.. i was told by another witness (a newbe witness) that jw's stick to their own kind, and do not stray outside as far as romance go's and i would have no chance at all with her...is this true???.

XQsThaiPoes

Most JW publications are self help books disguised as religious matterial. The reason she lives with he parents is she is a JW, and JW parents are overly clingy to there children in fear of satan's system (aka real life) corrupting them. They tend to want their children to stay untill marriage so they can keep tabs on them. SInce most JWs get married very young (19,20) this is not a real burden in most cases.

I was trying to say that jws used to be against education unless you planed on working for the orginization (for free). The only thing for intellegent people to do is imerse themselves in bible trivia watchtower publications and become walking appendixes. Now it has changed in the last decade or so.

The reason I said she want a ring on her finger is in general thats all JWs do. I am using generalities in real life jws are very hypocritecal in some areas. So their conduct is regulated by what they can get away with. If you live in a small town is if more strict than a big city. I am only assuming she is an average single JW woman that cant find any JW men in her area that are not messed up.

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Post Your Own Awake! Article Titles

by Farkel in

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friends

on another thread i posted the "titles" of some awake!

articles.

i thought it might be neat to allow others to add to the fun.

XQsThaiPoes

"How to believe and promote evolution with out believing or promoting evolution?"

"Blood Transfusions save lives."

"How to be an apostate and get away with it."

"Publishing doctrines contrary to the watchtower publications while publishing watchtower publications. Is it for you?" Awake corespondant in Brooklyn Bethel

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A Question For JW's Concerning Sticking To Their Own Kind...?

by Mr Parody in

i'm not a witness myself, i'm not even religious, but i know this younger woman who is.

i thought we hit it off pretty well.

i became attracted to her by her beauty, then infatuated by her kindness, and sweet personality...then i found out she was a jw.. i was told by another witness (a newbe witness) that jw's stick to their own kind, and do not stray outside as far as romance go's and i would have no chance at all with her...is this true???.

XQsThaiPoes

I think she wants to convert you so she can marry you in a JW church. Yes elders are like layman preist BTW. To many JWs your willingness and entusiasm to convert is a sign of character. If you are an atheist you'll make a good JW. It is when you actually believe what they teach when you get your feelings hurt.

As far as evolution there are 2 types of JWs manly. Those that are fundimentalist christians, and those that believe that ever the watchtower tells them. If you listen to the watchtower you might as well throw science and genesis out the window, because it matches neither well in an attempt to make them both fit. So you litteraly get a "blind watchmaker" a god that has no idea what he is doing and end up doing several things twice. I like the watchtowers rendition because they really tell you there is no proof of evolution but then explain how creation matches evolution, how some parts of genesis are wrong, not mean to be litteral, and how even if the theory of evolution is right the philosophical delimas means that any moral person would believe in Gods hand in creation.

Speaking of I would say that if you want to marry her (her only intention is a ring on finger BTW) have a study with her father. She probally arranged you to meet up just to soften you two up to each other. I would really ask him about the weirdness of the religion and if he though his daughter wanted to get involved with you, and if she did would that be okay. JWs are so desparate for a listening ear now days he well egerly chew the fat with you. As long as you do this the watchtower claims you are a "believer", but not "in the lord". If you were baptized as some other religion maybe you can claim to be "in the lord" too but thats a hard fight.

Right now many of JWs appealing claims about their religion is eronious,exgerated, unfounded, or based on the "no true scottsman" falacy. So they will make a false claim by exagerating beyond what ever their own books state, and if you have any proof contrary "no true christian/JW" would think, do, or say that. If you have any since of truth and know the rules of argumentation or logic then you can't really progress well in JWs. Because basically there religion is ran by lawyers and professional writers that deliberately use falacies to sway an largely uneducated audience. For years JWs that were not at the top of the organization or wealthy were forbidden to go to college. Now it is different but the damage is done. Now they are really using the same tactics but in the 3rd world they only get results because more people as a whole are going to college in the west.

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A Question For JW's Concerning Sticking To Their Own Kind...?

by Mr Parody in

i'm not a witness myself, i'm not even religious, but i know this younger woman who is.

i thought we hit it off pretty well.

i became attracted to her by her beauty, then infatuated by her kindness, and sweet personality...then i found out she was a jw.. i was told by another witness (a newbe witness) that jw's stick to their own kind, and do not stray outside as far as romance go's and i would have no chance at all with her...is this true???.

XQsThaiPoes

Hey I just found out our uber elder and his wife sister uber elder got married when she was not a JW. he god passed over for his position of elder the first time for it and they waited a few years later to make him an elder. SHe Became a JW after they got married but stil this was in the 70's.he was in his early 20's. My point is JWs do this all the time. It is Just covered up. I was shocked at how many JWs whom you assume was single were married to non jws.

A bunch of people will chim in an tell you not to consider her. WHich is an easy solution for you. If you persue this you need to be honest with her a tell her that you cant be in a realtionship where her where the oppion of the elders, congregation, and the watchtower comes in first. That you dont mind here didication to God, but she needs to draw the line when it is the oppion of her peer vs something Gods would care about.

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Who is your mediator ?

by Tyre in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/77215/1.ashx.

reading that topic above makes me to copy and paste from this link http://www.towertotruth.net/who_is_your_mediator.htm .

who is your mediator?.

XQsThaiPoes

As a Witness, I knew that it was generally believed that you had to have a mystical experience of being "called" in order to have a heavenly hope. I didn't think it was possible to just embrace a heavenly hope yourself and voluntarily declare yourself as under the New Covenant.

I think you are missing the point. That is what christianity is. If you dont have that "calling" then you are not christian and you are not different than an average JW who just says the are christian. People forget this.

I know you know alot about christianity, but what you have in JWs is a symbiosis of a small group of born again christians catering to materially to a non christian laity. The watchtower has basically outline in tha last few years that anyone that thinks they are supposed to partake should. THey shade this in a lot of words but that is the priciple. You will be supprised how many people go to bethel great crowd and leave anointed. Right now at least it is a don't ask dont tell policy probally because the GB is old and they need younger people. The msytical experience in JWs is simple thinking you are born again. If you don't think that there is no reason to take the eucharist any way.

I truely think the problem is one of perception. In a normal BA church everyone is taught to look for this "calling" and pray for it what ever. THis causes many false revalation anything from depression to panic attacks can be describe as some calling to God. In JWs they dont even talk about that except once a year. There is an annointed tabboo but it only really applies to crazies that in my experience make up a larger percentage of the anointed propulation of JWs than you would find in a church, but they are the same class of people namely born again christians.

And what happend to my first post here it vanished.

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WT blames failed prophecy on followers

by ezekiel3 in

i have posted this under ?scandals?

because i think it demonstrates the slick cover up over failed jw teachings.

read closely to see the wt actually blames the r&f for failed prophecies: .

XQsThaiPoes

This doesn't change the fact that the WT is responsible
for many deaths, suicides, murders, family tragedies,

So is Rock and Roll. Your point?

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A Question For JW's Concerning Sticking To Their Own Kind...?

by Mr Parody in

i'm not a witness myself, i'm not even religious, but i know this younger woman who is.

i thought we hit it off pretty well.

i became attracted to her by her beauty, then infatuated by her kindness, and sweet personality...then i found out she was a jw.. i was told by another witness (a newbe witness) that jw's stick to their own kind, and do not stray outside as far as romance go's and i would have no chance at all with her...is this true???.

XQsThaiPoes

MRP

Well JWs excel at being overly nice it is a wonderful way to place books. The JW religion has a serious problem in the courtship area. In the old days it was about as many men as women. THey made a priciple (simular to a venial sin) that you should only court JWs. Now there are more JWs women than men some say about 70%. So it is become more popular to court a non JW instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel of JWdom.

The real problem are JWs tend to be legalistic, parochial, hypocritical, and pious. So your relation ship probally wont work seemlessly unless you become a JW, or both of you are tolerant and liberal. By tolerant I don't mean respecting all beliefs only. I mean tolerating the constant medaling of JWs that mean well, their peer prussure techniques, probing proding, and patronizing. It can work but imagine the whole congregation of JWs as you serogate inlaws. Many people just can't take the constant nagging of total strangers in their lives.