Thanks gumby. And yeah its the winter. It plays hell with my artharitis among other things. No sleep and too much dilaudid make me go crazy. I hate winter and this is Los Angles. Imagine if I lived in Maine.
XQsThaiPoes
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Death, JWism, and negative side effects of doubting the watchtower.
by XQsThaiPoes ini am depressed.
well not in a traditional sense.
i have aquired a necrophobia.
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Death, JWism, and negative side effects of doubting the watchtower.
by XQsThaiPoes ini am depressed.
well not in a traditional sense.
i have aquired a necrophobia.
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I see your point rebel but it is not really jws thats the problem. It is lack of faith period. Plus JWs have a wrist slap idea of mortality. It really means nothing if God kills you cuz he kills everyone. Imagine if I was a budhist instead of a JW. The guy in organge would say that I am sick because in some life i don't remember I kicked too much ass or commited suicide or something. So it is all my fault. As much as people complain about jws generally "accepted" religions are far harsher in the afterlife realm. Only reason people dislike JWs is we are dishonest intellectually, and have no qualms of allowing a person to suffer over nonsense that we don't really believe in anyway (I mean if we believed our crap we would not change it so often).
We are a religion of cynics and skeptics blinded on false hope. Once the false hope is going you realize you don't really believe anything. You realize you could win the lotto before the new order has a chance of happening or remotely being true. Notice the very watchtower. Now they are turning their backs on armageddon while fanning end times the fire. THey have replaces the new order with a placebo "spiritual paradise" that actually is called living in america not "being a Jehovah's witness". THey claimed at assemblies that proverty is the number 1 reason people in developing lands leave JWs where here it is "media", and "immorality". Okay but how come the "spiritual paradise" evaporates once you leave the usa/eu?
Oddly I like JWs so I am not really bothered by the faith. It is the larger picture that is depressing me. I am over the hill at 24. THe scary thing is it does not matter because in 100 years nobody will care. Anyone ever grieve over people that died and suffered in the 1880's? Like I told someone "Remember the few years before you were born? Being dead is like that."
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wife given permission new union with lover without husband's permission
by belu ini am married to a jw woman who lives in the philippines.
divorce is not possible there so she is seeking an annulment of our marriage.
in order to make sure she followes true with the annulment i have asked her not to be with another man until the annulment is final.
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freedom96. Thank you if I would have said it Megadude or some other person would have called me an insane liar. Nobody believes the JWs church is full of toothless bulldogs and paper tigers. That if you play the game nothing bad ever happens to you. I mean stone pedophiles learned the game and look what they have done. A divorce and kingdom hall wedding is like a few extra hours in feild service and a dinner for the PO. ALso if it looks like to big a stink theyll say "wait on jehovah" 80% of the time. So if she did not have a "scriptural" divorce God is suppossed to get off his cloud and give her aids pox or something. Yeah right. THey should have a decoder ring that turns phrases like "wait on Jehovah" to "and we should care why?".
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wife given permission new union with lover without husband's permission
by belu ini am married to a jw woman who lives in the philippines.
divorce is not possible there so she is seeking an annulment of our marriage.
in order to make sure she followes true with the annulment i have asked her not to be with another man until the annulment is final.
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I am not stiring the pot but this is sorta what I say in other threads. JWs and X-JWs denying the JWs make their own rules. Basically the local church is allowed to have bigamy, or sanctions adultry. Brothers in africa had to kick their other wives out in the street because the branch (with nudging from ny)decided multipule wives was unchristian. What when you write the branch they stone wall you. If more JWs knew about these fiefdoms called branches and how they basically are just vendors liscensed by the church most jws would be enraged that in one side of the globe you can have two wives illegally and on the other only one even if you were legally married to both of them. I am gladd the internet allows JWs to see how divided we are in real time. Instead of having the watchtower constantly hide it with advertising.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Depend on Mental Illness?
by metatron inif you still go to meetings, take a good look around the kingdom hall next time you attend and think about what you are.
likely seeing.. many witnesses will sit in a half-awake mode - despite confronting a risk to life or limb in attending, because of bad weather or the sort.
of neighborhood the hall is located in.
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Doesn't society (not the society) exploit the weak in general. Look at the army how can anyone with out OCD. and MD be happy there. When you are not killing or escaping being killed you are living an ocd wonderland. If it wasn't for the fact they studied how far they could push soldiers since 1914 (dramatic pause) more veterans would be put straight into mental wards just like they did in WW1. I think there is some conspiracy in government using religions to weed the normal people from the trash fish. So when they need bodies to pay taxes or fight wars, or buy bonds they already know by religious break down which people are 4f. Istead of having to pay to lock these people up or pay for their medical needs the unbiquitous churches doll out aid and time killers. The normals coddle the rejects. Every once in a while the rejects manage to built a multi billion dollar church that gives the government a bad rash.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Depend on Mental Illness?
by metatron inif you still go to meetings, take a good look around the kingdom hall next time you attend and think about what you are.
likely seeing.. many witnesses will sit in a half-awake mode - despite confronting a risk to life or limb in attending, because of bad weather or the sort.
of neighborhood the hall is located in.
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Doesn't society (not the society) exploit the weak in general. Look at the army how can anyone with out OCD. and MD be happy there. When you are not killing or escaping being killed you are living an ocd wonderland. If it wasn't for the fact they studied how far they could push soldiers since 1914 (dramatic pause) more veterans would be put straight into mental wards just like they did in WW1. I think there is some conspiracy in government using religions to weed the normal people from the trash fish. So when they need bodies to pay taxes or fight wars, or buy bonds they already know by religious break down which people are 4f. Istead of having to pay to lock these people up or pay for their medical needs the unbiquitous churches doll out aid and time killers. The normals coddle the rejects. Every once in a while the rejects manage to built a multi billion dollar church that gives the government a bad rash.
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rides "a pale horse."
by Valis inso the may 2004 awake was left on my campus today.
in their article about disease they list how many people have died from disease since 1914. .
smallpox 350-500 million .
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The problem is they are denying their own docterine. It is that the pale horse has been riding since 1914. Killing more people.The problem like scully said is he has not. THe population is increasing. For that to be right less people have to be alive not more people dead. They have it backwards. If I say in 250 million die and yet 4 times as many replace them that is good! It is the opposite of extinction. WHat they should be proving is since 1914 more people are dying and not being replaced than ever before. THey should be citing insane population booms before 1914 and show how as we get closer to the in there are less booms. And eventually predict whne humans become indangered if Jesus or Jehovah or 144k or what ever does not save us.
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Death, JWism, and negative side effects of doubting the watchtower.
by XQsThaiPoes ini am depressed.
well not in a traditional sense.
i have aquired a necrophobia.
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Why did you mention all the stuff I wana do now but physically or monetarily can't.
My problem is I feel cheated. I always knew I would cease to exist. THat did not bother me much. WHat bothers me is I will cease with out recompense. I want recompense. I want my pound of flesh. I am in a crappy body that has alawys been sick. I had a few months of "normal" healthy feeling teen life and I didn't fall in love, have sex, drive a race car etc. I feel that I will have at best 40 or 50 more years of decline. Not even wealth will make it better unless I get demigod like wealth that controls the fate of hundreds of millions. At best I'll marry a woman 1/3 my age and be finacialy secure. Probally divorce. In traditional JWism you at least get 1000 year of good S* to F* around as an uberman! Kill people you hate or love them or whatever you decide.
In real life you are a roll of the dice. I mean that ovum had the bare minimum of QC. Imagine if I have a horrific accident. THen my serious but less than terminal illness will be thrust on me plus being maimed. And no recompense! Maybe because I am not doing much loving to my family or others the lonely cynical side is all I see. Hope is the first step on the path to disappointment. JWs gave me hope. Now I am disappointed. I can take drugs to feel better but that does not solve the problem. The problem (not being vindicated) still remains. THerefore I am angry.
Angry at humans period. I really want to end it now so I don't have to wait to die. I know that is illogical but at least it is control. PC psycho people will say "if you want direction and control blah blah" No! I only want one thing justice. THe only less than supernatual thing I can do since I can't grant immortality is to instill suffering. But that is evil. It is Just but sadistic. Therefore I remain un avenged! For eternity! It is worse that damnation to the most vile shpere of hell!. Nobody will avenge my death. No body. THe whole world needs to pay for it! If I kill myself I avenge my own death period. Hence the reason I don't own a gun yet realy want one. So I could choose. Make them pay or avenge my self.
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An age old mystery has been solved,
by embeth2525 inwhen i was a teenager, my father built a wall in the hallway of our house so that he would not have to have anything to to with me.
i had to do dishes in the bathroom sink and cook on a hotplate.
i never knew why he did this.
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I think it has more to do with her death than the JWness. I stil feel sorry you had to do that.
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An age old mystery has been solved,
by embeth2525 inwhen i was a teenager, my father built a wall in the hallway of our house so that he would not have to have anything to to with me.
i had to do dishes in the bathroom sink and cook on a hotplate.
i never knew why he did this.
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This could be shunning but shunning you for what? And BTW this sort of thing is kinda natural women do it in post pardom depression. Male loins chase away their male cubs. I know men that were threatend at gun point to leave home and and told theyd be shot if they caught them begging for food from their mothers. I know this is extreme but it may not be soley a jw root. Also maybe your father like so may fathers was trying to toughin you up for the "real world" there is a certain bred of man that beliefs this kid of thing prepares you for life. But this is bizzar. And BTW my dad kept trying to do the divide the house thing with me but my mom would not let him. I look back on it and kida wish he did because he has no respect for privacy.