the organization teaches that we leave everyone and everything else behind when we join christianity (also known as the "truth").
your father, mother, brother and sister all have to be given up to become a "real" christian.
friends that you grew up that are not of the same religion must be abandoned.
Women are below men, they can't hold positions in the congregation, they can't give talks addressing the congregation, She must acknowledge her husband as the head of the house. Even to lead prayer in a group, she must cover her head.
The only grounds for divorce is adultry, It doesn't matter if he beats you up or verballly abuses you .If you remarry, you are punished by being outcast and shunned, until they feel you are worthy to be accepted again.
for the sake of being legally correct... today i was told a person i work with is a jw.
there is a man at work who is not...he is apostate too.
really off the deep end though...conciders himelf a warlock and trys to cast spell, shapeshift and be a jedi.
hmmm.well I looked into the wiccan and a few things like that on the internet, just because I could and when I was JW it was considered so evil. But anyways, I would never join any other organization, good or bad, Im happy just to live the way I want. Some people seem to need to have others to emulate, not sure why, but I guess thats why other cults or religions, good and bad flourish. Different strokes for different folks.. I guess :)
what a noble theme to the instruction talk tonight er this week.. emphasizing jesus' roles as high priest and head of the congregation .
now you'd think the information the talk is based on would emphasize jesus' roles right?
*** be p. 277 the message we must proclaim ***.
Additionally, Jesus exercises great authority as the one designated by God to be Head of the Christian congregation. (Matt. 28:18; Eph. 1:22, 23) As such, he provides needed direction in harmony with God?s will. When you teach others, help them to appreciate that Jesus Christ, and no human, is the Head of the congregation. (Matt. 23:10)
Interesting how they begin with Jesus to make it tie in with the propaganda to follow, which is to keep following the society's rules and laws. Not God's or Jesus's laws. But the laws set out by the sociey. I don't even know how the society can seriously write this stuff anymore. :)
the great crowd gets tested twice .
they have to remain faithful through armagedon or be faithful till death .
to enter the paradise .. they must also pass another test of faith at the.
Well everything they teach is based on fear anyways. Question the org you will be DF'd( castout), They even keep you in fear about the new system -you mustn't have any individual or free-thinking or you will still die. Very clever brain-washing, I must say :)
i would think with all that the governing body is faced with that they must feel some form of isolation even at bethel.
they must worry all the time that soon thier little world will come crashing down especially with the brutal exposer the internet is providing.
i'm also sure that they wonder who will be the next to turn states evidence against them in some legal case they face now or in the furure.. with all the very clear information on the internet exposeing the governing body thate soon some higher up will get deprogramed that have been privy to some very damaging information perhaps from the accounting or the legal department that could send thier asses to jail.
Over 20 years ago, when my husband and I were still practising JW's , my husband and another brother friend went to help build our new assemby hall here in the Toronto area. The day they were there, members of the governing body came to visit the building work and see its progress. My husband and this brother were shocked to see them drive up in an expensive new car and wearing expensive looking suits. This is a little off topic, but I think it shows how they are profiting from the contributions of the little guys.They make a nice life based on lying to the masses. :)
well i finally have stopped to say hello.
i have been searching this site for a few months now and finding some interesting information, for now i am still a jw, confused as ever, feeling like my life is going to end and jehovah will take all the good in my life away by joining this forum.
i have so many concerns and as you all know have no one to talk to.
Hi Confusedgirl, no need to be confused anymore. I have been disassociated for 20 years now. but always curious as to whether others felt about the org as my husband and did. We didn't really know anyone who had the same situation as us. I was happy to find this site last year. Its an amazing thing , this internet, that people can meet together from all over the world and exchange ideas. It has reaffirmed that my husband and I made the right decision in leaving, especially for our kids and the quality of their lives. :)
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hi everyone im new hear is every one here a jehovah's witness or former jehovah's witness.
Hi Cupcake!!!. I was a JW but dissassociated 20 years ago. Best decision I ever made..
today is my first day here.
this is my first post.
i just wanted to say hello.
Hiya boydarwin, this is the best place to sit and chat where everyone understands where you've been and where you're going :)
i semi-enjoyed the show, although ive seen better in the past.
i loved alicia keys performance.
i think she is very talented and a true artist.
The Grammys would have been very much improved if JLo did NOT sing. I love the performance by Meliisa Etheridge with her tribute to Janis Joplin. She also is a great inspiration for women with breast cancer .
i ask this question because my "atheist" friend the other day told me that he is much mentally free now since he left christianity.
he told me that "all" christians that he comes into contact with or knows from his religious lifetime are "miserable" and that the govt should abolish all christian groups for the sake of perserving the mental health of the people.
christians never are satisfied with their lives because they are trying to measure up to "jesus" and the apostles and will never measure up which causes many nervous breakdowns among religious people of all christian groups not just jw or mormons but many born-agains have mental breakdown as well.
I personally don't believe in God and since leaving the org years ago, I have no need or desire for any organized religion. But that is what living in a free society is all about, everyone having the freedom to believe as they choose. I do think as ( sorry I forget which post now) stated, that religions need to be more accountable for things like child abuse. Everyone has different beliefs that is how it should be and how the human spirit flourishes. Some people need religion in their life and it enhances their life. That is a beautiful thing :)
