Hi Nos, I enjoyed reading your posting, Something similiar happened just shortly after we formly DA's ourselves. I was sitting on my front porch when the brother on service walked by, He recognized me right away and just turned his head and kept walking. He was an elder at the time. My story isn't as interesting as yours.It's a short one.. :)
lilybird
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Guess who came to my door Saturday morning?
by Nosferatu in..... burton cummings!
he said that he likes my music and will do everything in his power to get me a recording contract!
so we sat and had a few beers, and shot the bs for a while.. yeah right, i wish.. it was actually the not so musically talented jws who came to my door.
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Sentimental Mood
by MerryMagdalene ini've been thinking back to my j-dub childhood with a sort of sad fondness.... my great-grandfather was the first witness in the valley where he lived and ranched.
he became one after listening to rutherford's radio programs.
i have no idea why and am a bit curious.
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lilybird
Sometimes I reflect on my teenage years growing up as a witness in the late 70's. At that time we were still allowed to have big house parties with disco(shudder) dancing. All the parties were chaperoned by witness parents and sometimes elders. But we had fun, without drugs drinking and we had a group of guy and girls who were really good friends with out the pressures of sex before we were ready, We went to parties all over Toronto, meeting other witness teens. Life seemed carefree. I was newly baptised and we all looked forward to bliss in paradise someday. Sadly, we all had to grow up and we all started getting married by 19. That was what you had to do or you were washed up by 21 it seemed. By that time, the society really started disapproving of parties and disco clubs.(we went to disco clubs downtown Toronto as well). By that time I was out working and getting engaged, so it didn't really affect me, but I felt sorry the ones younger than me like my sister who were not allowed to party and have fun. I think that is where the society went wrong with the teens, here anyway. They stopped allowing you to be young.Most couldn't take being reined so they left. But I know I did have some good times as teen witness. My husband and I often talk about the fun times. Too bad we grew up and discovered all the lies we had been taught and been believing ..Better late than never I guess.
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Why did you leave?
by greendawn inif someone asked to state briefly why you left the jw brotherhood what would you say?
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lilybird
I was fed up with being told who I could associate with, how to think, how to live my life. Spending meaningless hours in field service which was just disrupting other peoples live. Also the hypocrosy of JWS being god fearing and loving when they were generally judgemental and materialistic. I say generally, as some really seemed to want to serve God and know God, but they have been brainwashed by the org.
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lilybird
I totally agree with you greendawn. There are many so-called worldy people who are kinder and more compassionate than some JWS. They don't pretend to be something that goes along with dogma from an org set up by power hungry leaders e.g.GB. There is good and bad in everyone it is up to our own personal choice ,,, which is something not allowed by the org. You have to associate with all the losers just because they call themselves JWS. When I was deep into the org, I was nervous to talk to worldly people. My mother taught me that they were all bad especially the men. I would only have a good marriage with a brother.Some of my friends who married sons of elders ended up with abusive relationships. One friend spent the night at my house in fear of returning to her house. It took me a awhile to learn to trust others outside of the org, but I love the freedom to choose who I can be friends with
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JWs not shunning you after you left the org?
by greendawn inafter you got disfellowshipped or disassociated yourself were there any jws relatives or not that refused to accept the shunning policy and at least secretly (or perhaps openly) kept up contact with you?
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lilybird
We formally D'A ourselves about 20 years ago. My husband's parents did not agree with shunning their children. They were counselled several times to not associate with us, but they just laughed it off and said that they would not do that. His father was eventually made an elder and still counselled not to speak to us, but he still refused to do that. The congregation elders left us alone and we all were still a family.Still, his family tried to get us to come back. We went to a memorial service a few years ago just to please them so they could attend with some family. After the service the PO told my father-in-law that if we were trying to come back we would have to agree to a bible study and attend meetings without talking to any sisters or brothers in the hall. WE said we weren't that interested!!!!!!!! Anyways, going back for the one meeting was enough to reaffirm to both of us that we were never going back to that insanity....We feel that the elders let my father-in-law associate with us if he wanted because he was very wealthy and made big contributions to the hall..buying his way into the New System. He died 2 years ago never seeing the Great Tribulation he was waiting for... oh well.....
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Coro street Cult episode in NZ tonight
by Black Sheep inkaren has just had a visit from her cult father.
i heard about this some time ago.. on the booze tonight,so i am taping it and will watch it later...... .
chris
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lilybird
The Coronation Street episodes here in Canada are behind the times as they are broadcast in England. Karen is still in the show here and her father just showed up at her door. She tells Steve how hard it was like growing up with very strict religious parents and being treated differently at school because of it.. Hmmm ....brought back some painful memories........
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Was The Ministry Ever Rewarding To You?
by minimus ini only know of a few witnesses that believe that.
did you feel that the ministry was especially rewarding and gratifying to you?
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lilybird
That was the only thing I looked forward to as a kid forced into Saturday service, the donuts on mid morning break.The rest was a good waste of a Saturday morning. I also remember my mother referring to the brothers and sisters as "the friends". Another cult-like expression!!!!!
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Does the WTBTS still control your life?
by Honesty indo you follow the arrangement dictated by the governing body of jw's regarding df'd and da'd individuals?
do you shun the jw's like you are expected to by wt leaders or do you speak to jw's and greet them with a smile even if they shun you when you do so?
in complying with wtbts rules of acceptable behavior for da'd or df'd persons do you think that you are showing unconditional love to your neighbor?
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lilybird
When my father-in-law died a while ago, he was an elder in the congregation we used to attend. I was nervous going to attend his funeral at the kingdom hall we used to attend. The service was actually quite touching , in spite of the JW teachings interjected thruout the service. The elder taking the service taked about his life growing up and his relationship with his believing sisters. Sorry, not to get off topic, I was also worried about being shunned. Not that I really care what they think of my life outside the org. Its just not pleasant. Anyways, the sisters and brothers I had grown up with came and spoke to me and asked how we were and talked to our children and we felt very welcome. There were a couple of sisters who went out of their way to show they were snubbing us. But they are wacky anyways :). I left feeling even stronger in the belief that leaving was EXACTLY the right thing to do for myself and my children.I feel sorry for the ones who don't have the courage or enlightened enough to leave the control of the org and just live,,, the way a loving God intended...
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Dubs telling people who they should and should not marry.
by LongHairGal ini know of several experiences of couples who got married against the unwanted advice of the busybodies at the hall.
and i am not talking about a sixteen year old girl marrying a seventeen year old boy either!
these were people way over 30. .
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lilybird
In the congregation I used to attend , there was a very pretty 24 year old sister, never been married, She started dating a 40something brother who was widowed with 7 kids, one was just a year old. They decided to marry, but shortly before the wedding, she started to have doubts and wanted to put off the wedding. Who could blame her? The elders had a meeting with her and told her she had to marry him and being engaged was as good as married in god's eyes. We went to the ceremony..She was over an hour late, guess she was trying to pluck up the courage to go thru with it. They did stay married long enough to have a daughter, but she wasn't really happy. Im not sure if they are still married as they moved away and we disassociated ourselves soon after. We always felt sorry that her life had been manipulated this way by elders who had no business interferring.
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Latest "talk" by GB member being emailed around
by catchthis innot sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard..... .
>a talk recently given by brother guy pierce ... .
>safeguard your spirituality by training your perceptive powers .
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lilybird
SNG That was so funny. I couldn't stop laughing and then I had to go back and read it again and laugh some more. Its so ridiculous that JWS think that Satan is just waiting there to ensnare them at any second. I would think with all the crap going on the world that if you believed in Satan it would seem he is much busier creating havoc elsewhere.