upside/down... I totally agree with you....no wonder ppl on earth can't get along... they have the same power and ego struggles in heaven as they do on earth..... and they don't even have financial worries!!!!!
lilybird
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a great crowd and rev 21
by IP_SEC ini?ve been researching the references to a great crowd at revelation 7 and 19. it seems to me that there is little doubt that the vision places them in heaven.
naos, enopion, and the reference to heaven in chapter 19 seem pretty conclusive as to their heavenly position to me.
my problem is that, when i read revelation 21:1-4 it seems to me that this is speaking about the same group as the 'a great crowd' at chapter 7 and 19. at 7:15 it says god will spread his tent over this group.
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My last District Convention (I hope) ... observations
by ithinkisee inso last weekend was my last district convention.
i plan on breaking the news to my wife real soon.
nowadays even at the meetings my blood pressure raises and my back gets all tense as i sit and listen to some of the stuff we are supposed to believe.
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lilybird
Our last district assembly was the summer of 1986. We had 2 boys under the age of 5 and one on the way. I remember it was melting hot. We both sat and listened to the same droning on and on about the same meaningless dribble they fed us with every time......As we tried to keep our boys from climbing the seats and under the seats... we looked at each other and said .."Lets get out of here".. We packed up and I could hear the drone of the speaker ,,,but not hearing one word..... We felt so free and like we had just woken up from a bad dream.... That was the last meeting we ever attended....... and....NO Regrets!!!!!!!
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My Tale (its about time too!!!)
by PaulJ ini have vaig memories of a christmas, but other than that, being a jw was all i know.
she begged me to stay but i knew it would be easy just to give in (again).
i have never felt so much hurt in my life.
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lilybird
I enjoyed reading your story. You went thru a lot that if you weren't involved with the Dubs you probably would have had a very different life. One you chose for yourself... ...Not dictated by others. Im happy you found happiness........................ My mother also was a schizophenic with massive deppression.Its very hard to grow up in a family with this type of mental illness.... especially so 20 years ago as they didn't have the understanding of today.... The children of a mentally ill person were not counselled or had any kind of therapy,, so you just muddled along best you could with no one to talk to..... So I understand how it could affect your wife,,, unfortunately,,, you tend to close yourself off from others...it seems easier to deal with that way...maybe that it a part of how your wife grew up and her difficulties in your relationship... and the dubs don't help......they were always telling my mom not to take meds...it could let the demons in her mind... she was also the sweetest and most faithful sister you could meet...she never harmed anyone but took her own life 20 years ago.............At least now you are free to make a new life on your terms...... Thanks for sharing your story......
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Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Get Engaged
by sandy in<div>just wondering what some of your thoughts on this are.
i shouldn't care but i do.
but i'll save my negative, non-sense comments for later.</div>
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lilybird
Well, I did see an interview with Katie where she said she had always dreamed of marrying Tom Cruise since she was young.And...well... she is still young and I think niave. She might be confusing a childhood crush with love and as for Tom ,,, maybe he is just trying to stay young forever...Who knows?? anyway,, its their life and if they can be happy thats great....if they break up after 2 years..... well... its just another Hollywood marriage...its happens all the time.....
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Dorothy and Gus just left
by gwyneth inthey caught me off guard...i didn't sleep well because i had to put my cat rocco to sleep yesterday, and for some reason awoke at 2 a.m. to cry another hour...my eyes are puffy with big bags under them.
so i went back to sleep.. since i decided to write this as a big run-on sentence, i have put what they say in red, and what i say in yellow.. dorothy was in her 70's, and she told me that in the new system, cats would still die but we wouldn't be so attached to them.
he asked what congregation.
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lilybird
Your conversation with Gus shows just how well JWS are conditioned to close their minds to new ideas and not accept their is any conflict in the organization............He seemed to have all the textbook answers as any good elder would,,,,, but as another poster stated,,,, you probably gave him a lot to think about later when he cools down.......You handled the discussion so well.....maybe Gus and Dorothy might open their minds a bit to exploring their religion and whether it is truly "god-inspired".....
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What do you feel when you see groups of Jehovah's Witnesses on the street?
by nicolaou inregret, anger frustration?
how about sadness, sorrow, sympathy, understanding, even yearning!.
it can be quite confusing at times.
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lilybird
I feel relieved that I no longer have to do that.... and I feel sorry for the JWS who feel that they still need to be involved in the preaching work.....such a waste of lives........waiting for a world that will never come..
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JESUS GOT OFF LIGHT!!!!!!
by avishai inlately, with all the talk about mel gibsons new movie, etc., it got me to thinking.
here you have people that suffer for their whole lives.
with cerebral palsy, constant pain, watching their entire families get gunned down.. here is the deal.
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lilybird
WE don't need faith in some higher power to make life meaningful. Everything we accomplish here on earth,,medical breakthroughs, space exploration, helping others in need .............is through the efforts of other humans who care to make the world a better place. That is nothing to do with God , sacrifices or faith. Just people wanting to make the world a better place for others and generations to come..... I know that JWs are always waiting for God to come and fix everything.. for the new system to come..... with their logic .... the world would stagnat forever.......
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #138 What encouragement?
by ozziepost inanother week's flown by and another weekend upon us already!
this past week we've been 'pleased' to meet up with some dubs on the board.
i hope they've felt welcome!
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lilybird
Well.. it would have to be #2. They didn't.............................But once the CO dropped over with his wife, I was at work, we had one son and had recently boughht a small modest home to raise our family in. The CO told my husband we should sell our house and rent so I wouldn't have to work and would have more time for spirtual matters. ......My husband pointed out that our mortgage was not much more than renting at the time so that seemed pointless....At least we weren't working and having nothing after!!! ...Surprisingly,,,the CO's wife spoke up in our defense that buying seemed more sensible . She got a look from her CO husband.....LOL..bet she got told after not to speak against him.....
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Airliner landing on an SUV
by observador in.
if thought that was impossible, you're gonna be surprised.... http://www.405themovie.com/home.asp.
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lilybird
I just watched it. Great special effects. It was funny with Grandma driving, so typical of some drivers so small they can't barely see over the stearing wheel..
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Honestly, do you think that JW's really like going to 3 or 4day assemblies?
by JH in.
honestly, do you think that jw's really like going to 3 or 4 day assemblies, especially when it's out of town, far away, and you have to take a motel room, and all the gas money and food money it takes, as well as having to sit down all day listening to endless talks...and that for 3 or 4 days in a row.. and often, they have to take a day off from work, to attend the friday meeting, so no pay for that day.. i think that the jw's are glad when it's finally over, not before.. .
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lilybird
Well I know I used to hate it. Especially with 2 toddlers to drag along who just wanted to run around and play or eventually got tired or/and hungry. Good waste of valuable time.....