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  My Son Is SIXTEEN Today

  by Corvin in

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  today, my son, beau, is sixteen.

  i just don't know where the time goes.

  this kid is 6'-3" and sports size 13 shoes.

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  All consciences here, wish you, Beau -

  A VERY SPECIAL AND HAPPY 16th BIRTHDAY !!! Live it up !!
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  top 25 in last year - we need to get a life

  by stillajwexelder in

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  the follwiing ar ethe top 25 posters in the last year .

  we need to get a life as i am one of them!

  minimus

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  How do you know that those numbers are accurately recorded? With all the past experience as Jdub's, they might be into the inflating of numbers ya know!

  You're all doing alot to help OTHERS GET A LIFE !

  Thanks,

  4JWY
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  Co-worker Died

  by simplesally in

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  a couple of weeks ago, one of the nicest men in the world passed out at work at one of our other stores.

  his airway was blocked by cartilege (sp?

  ) build-up in his trachea.

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  ((((hugs)))) to all during the sad days of such loss.

  4JWY
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  JW Aging Parents/ Rest Homes

  by 4JWY in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .

  if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?

  the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.

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  ...and I applaud you Danny for all your efforts!

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  ... you got that one right too Danny - several with new trophy wives, (future caregivers) in our locale -

  my dad at 83, attempted to snag one too.
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  JW Aging Parents/ Rest Homes

  by 4JWY in

  1. watchtower
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  for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .

  if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?

  the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.

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  Joker10:

  Yes, that is the view I always knew to be the case.

  I was the sole caretaker of dad for the seven years after my mom died, but when I stopped attending meetings, he suffered dissonance related to the fact that maybe he shouldn't be allowing himself to associate with me in regards to his daily care even. That's where the hopelessness entered in for him.
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  Guards at Stadium Conventions during Song and Prayer

  by VM44 in

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  when did the wt start having guards come out during the song and prayer at stadium conventions?

  i noticed this at a convention in san diego, right before the song begins, a bunch of "brothers" come out and stand at key positions facing the seats, and scan the audience!

  they remain until after the prayer, and they do not bow their heads during the prayer, but keep scanning the audience.

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  It may be too at Qualcomm that it is part of the stadium's requirements in renting the place, to station these guys at all the areas - just like they do at the ballgames there - for security purposes in general. Qualcomm made lots of changes, especially after 9-11. .
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  "Missed you at the Meeting"

  by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

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  how many times did you hear that before you were baptized?

  i got a little tired of it when someone called me and said that.

  this was the first sign of the control thing.

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  Yes, this comment is the classic of all classics!

  There's almost nothing I hated more than receiving one of those 'put up to' phone calls. This old pioneer sister called, checking on me, and told me how it was her one day of the week that she sets aside to call everyone who wasn't at a meeting! Then she proceeds to say a prayer on my behalf over the phone lines! I never gave any reason to anybody either. So fake.
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  JW Aging Parents/ Rest Homes

  by 4JWY in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .

  if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?

  the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.

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  Ohcowboy: Yes, that comment was one of many - and by this elder, a former DO/CO that for whatever reason, does have his housing needs met, living in a beautiful home in a lovely community and believe it or not, purchased by the WTS ? He must have had an "in" somewhere I guess.

  Big Tex: I'm glad you shared that good example for others to benefit from. Your f-i-l had a great arrangement being so close to you and I'm sure you hold the memories close. Sorry for your loss.

  I've never heard anything particularly against these living arrangements, it is an individual choice. If one has no other feasible alternatives and with the longevity these days, many others will face this issue. Unfortunately, the dissonance experienced can be especially deadly for the elderly.

  Nina ~ ((())) I feel your pain, I'm so sorry about your dad's death. Your mom's condition is a heartbreaker too and I wish for you the strength to deal with it. Isn't it so much of a relief to just ALLOW her to have a ball living out her last days? You will at least know that you are over the past judgemental ways of the org.

  As we know, elders don't have professional training in dealing with the depression brought on by the very lifestyle/belief system they cherish. Their form of "encouragement" was to read the scriptures and study more. At 3:00 a.m. one night, we sat there with this same elder at dad's house and listened to him read the scriptures and tell dad, "yes, it is a fight, we need to fight against Satan and the world ! Suicide is a SIN and a STENCH before Jehovah." I wish I would have called a local crisis hotline to "encourage" him instead.
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  JW Aging Parents/ Rest Homes

  by 4JWY in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .

  if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?

  the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.

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  .....tried to edit that last post to include you ~

  avishai,

  Yes, I was always drawn to the older ones too and got a kick out of lots of 'em. I shoulda just put a WWJD pin on him huh? Good idea for others for reinforcement oh - I'll be sure to visit you one day!

  tal,

  It is a combination of so many different fears and I know it's not unique to JW's, but that added fear factor- spiritual endangerment, has gotta play into it.. I heard about the "urine odor" factor too of course!

  All the best to you and yours if decisions ever need to be made in this regard - thank you for your thoughts-

  4JWY of the "it's almost 2:00 a.m. and I am sitting here class ?" Goodnight all.
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  JW Aging Parents/ Rest Homes

  by 4JWY in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .

  if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?

  the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.

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  Thank you ohiocowboy ~

  yes, especially with him the fresh territory should have been the draw ! Unfortunately with the negative views of the world reinforced constantly, it was very difficult to remain positive as a JW in old age (or any age for that matter! )

  During a suicidal attempt intervention one night -I tried to discuss this matter of old ones, homes, and the harm done to all JW's from the "dangers of the world" teachings, with dad's PO, and didn't get much thought out of him other than, "well, how old is he now? He probably won't live long anyway." The damage was already done by the cult's ingrained thoughts.

  I worked at the front desk of a home for a year and there were a couple of JW's living there, but they always appeared so guarded around the other residents and I always wondered how this aspect of the" world" was truly affecting their days.

  Appreciated your thoughts,

  4JWY