Dear Steve,
I am sorry that you lost your friend in this way - it is so sad and difficult to stop thinking about for some time unfortunately. I'm sure you will be a comfort to the family and hold your friendship in your heart.
Regards,
4JWY & family
his name was robert thigpin and i worked with him for eight years (1990-1998).
last night he killed himself.
while we didn't always see things eye to eye, i could always count on him and he was a good co-worker.
Dear Steve,
I am sorry that you lost your friend in this way - it is so sad and difficult to stop thinking about for some time unfortunately. I'm sure you will be a comfort to the family and hold your friendship in your heart.
Regards,
4JWY & family
are we told not to judge other......leave it to jah ...blah blah blah.
but in truth the jw's are the most judgemental group of individuals i have ever know !
and that just in the cong.
When inquiring of me and wondering " where I am at", I told the elder that if I heard about "death and destruction" and judgemental words from the platform one more time, I would go running out of the Kingdom Hall screaming.
The next elder that came to my door - in conversation, I pointed to the house across the street and the house next door and told him that I NOW can go and talk to my neighbors without any ulterior motive and/or fear of their "worldliness", and judging them. I said that I walk through WalMart without looking at every person they would think is a weirdo, and judging them as unfit to live too. He had no comment.
edited to add: Yes, welcome blobby!
for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .
if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?
the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.
avishai and xj:
Thank you guys ~ and avishai, it's o.k. - believe me, I understand ~ Be well !
Yes, xj -Nobody should take lightly the constant negative thinking taught and reinforced by the org - AND, it's affects on the psyche -
- when one has lived with it for decades, it takes it's toll, even if one doesn't recognize it himself. In my dad's case, there were other factors involved. Being bipolar, the JW lifestyle/belief system wasn't the best fit for him. It came down to severe depressive episodes and agitation. The way he reconciled it was that, as his note stated, Jehovah knows all and he would be the judge. Sad to say, but - it's actually easier to accept his action, than to see the way he was feeling each day.
i asked my husband for a divorce yesterday.
after he threw a plate full of food and a cup of coffee it went pretty well, especially after he left, but came back four hrs.
i have pretty hard questions i need your help with ,the first is what do i say when he keeps telling me that he leaves me alone a jws?
Dear kls: (((())))
I don't even know what to say at this moment as I am fuming - and if my husband was here to read your last thought, he'd be huntin' for your husband. Nothing burns him more than knowing the crap that women put up with from men- no, what I meant to say, is, the crap that men dish out to women!!! Am I reading correctly - your husband IS JW? and he has called you FB all the years??? You deserve more, much more. Believe it.
I hope you make fast tracks outta there. You can accomplish anything you set your mind to! You have friends here and I know, unfortunately, that many have experienced similar conditions in their marriages and will be able to offer you support and suggestions.
Beaming positive thoughts your way...
4JWY & family
today, my son, beau, is sixteen.
i just don't know where the time goes.
this kid is 6'-3" and sports size 13 shoes.
All consciences here, wish you, Beau -
A VERY SPECIAL AND HAPPY 16th BIRTHDAY !!! Live it up !!
the follwiing ar ethe top 25 posters in the last year .
we need to get a life as i am one of them!
minimus
How do you know that those numbers are accurately recorded? With all the past experience as Jdub's, they might be into the inflating of numbers ya know!
You're all doing alot to help OTHERS GET A LIFE !
Thanks,
4JWY
a couple of weeks ago, one of the nicest men in the world passed out at work at one of our other stores.
his airway was blocked by cartilege (sp?
) build-up in his trachea.
((((hugs)))) to all during the sad days of such loss.
4JWY
for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .
if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?
the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.
...and I applaud you Danny for all your efforts!
edited to add:
... you got that one right too Danny - several with new trophy wives, (future caregivers) in our locale -
my dad at 83, attempted to snag one too.
for those of you with aging jw parents/friends, i would like to pose a question: .
if the time came when they would need to reside in a senior assisted living facility of some kind - would the jw belief regarding close association with "the world" keep them from moving in?
the wts does not provide any kind of jw home environment for the elderly/infirm and when folks have had their thinking controlled by the org and taught the dangers of "the world" for much of their lives, this can be an especially traumatic time.
Joker10:
Yes, that is the view I always knew to be the case.
I was the sole caretaker of dad for the seven years after my mom died, but when I stopped attending meetings, he suffered dissonance related to the fact that maybe he shouldn't be allowing himself to associate with me in regards to his daily care even. That's where the hopelessness entered in for him.
when did the wt start having guards come out during the song and prayer at stadium conventions?
i noticed this at a convention in san diego, right before the song begins, a bunch of "brothers" come out and stand at key positions facing the seats, and scan the audience!
they remain until after the prayer, and they do not bow their heads during the prayer, but keep scanning the audience.
It may be too at Qualcomm that it is part of the stadium's requirements in renting the place, to station these guys at all the areas - just like they do at the ballgames there - for security purposes in general. Qualcomm made lots of changes, especially after 9-11. .