I enjoyed listening to my son all through the years, with a youthful exuberance, BELT out the songs with no care to the fact that he sang totally off key -
I think that's the only thing I ever liked.
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as much as i dreaded going to all the meetings there were things that i did enjoy.. 1. no special parking spaces for the elders, etc.. 2. no collections plate going around the room.
3. no one person giving the talk every single week (can you imagine the same speaker 3 to 4 times a week, every day?
I enjoyed listening to my son all through the years, with a youthful exuberance, BELT out the songs with no care to the fact that he sang totally off key -
I think that's the only thing I ever liked.
my theory is that a lot of us were really into the culture.
in our hey day jill (my wife) and i had two keys to the kh.
she pioneered, i was an ms and aux pio'd.
I was a shining example of a skater and it has proven to be my saving grace in exiting.
i've posted a few times about the troubles with my poor mom and the &*!
@# elders telling her she can't talk to her daughter.
being that i'm the only family she has here to take care of her.. anyways - i've kept my distance out of respect for her....that is...until a few weeks ago.
Dawn -
A to you and your mom.
In the whole scheme of things - who ARE they anyway huh? My dad wondered how I could be so BAD if I was so good to him.
All the best,
4JWY
i have a couple.
the elder that used to study with me came to my door one day.
he reminded me of all the wonderful times we had out in service (i really couldn't remember any).
My dictionary uses the exact expression "gird up one's loins" with the definition:
: reproductive organs. To prepare oneself for strenuous effort.
Just what was this brother (WTS) telling them?
..and if so, what form does such psychological damage take?.
my own experience is that damage does occur.. i was 8 years old when my parents became converted, so i wasn't exactly a totally white canvass on which my personality could be painted.
but i was a light shade of grey, so the impact of wt teaching was still quite considerable.. i think the most damage that i suffered was in the area of guilt and unworthiness.
I am trying to figure out just how damaged my kids are -
at 18 and 20 having been raised JW but not in the fanatic sense and thankfully, never baptized.
They seem to be doing great, working, school, many friends and a girlfriend - full on into hobbies/athletics - they were so happy to leave, 2 years now, and we did as a family - but, I see many say how they were affected for decades by the upbringing and I know it is so.
Am I naive to think they will get it out of their system (sorry, don't mean to use the "get over it" thought) easier than me, since they only lived half the length of time as I did in the cult? Discussions with them at this time have them telling me that I will never be able to think like a "normal" worldly mom after more than 40 years of mind control.
i have a couple.
the elder that used to study with me came to my door one day.
he reminded me of all the wonderful times we had out in service (i really couldn't remember any).
((((Elsewhere)))) what a good letter - hope it will open up their thinking processes enough to take you in and appreciate the love of a son.
My friends just received a scathing letter of "encouragement" from an elder who has "missed" them during their fading time - he sent notes from the assembly, the new brochure and said : "Make it back to the fold. Gird up your loins and come back."
although this article isn't particularly about witnesses, i thought i'd highlight the parts that i feel pertain in the same way to the wt society:.
sites provide community for former and wavering mormons salt lake city (ap) ?
eight years ago, eric kettunen built the web site exmormon.org to help people who were struggling with their decision to leave the mormon church.
Thanks for the interesting article -
I had found the exmormon site before I ever had even typed in the words "Jehovah's Witnesses". At the time, I was amazed to see the similarities between the issues being discussed on the mormon board and how I felt as a JW. It helped me tremendously just to know others were questioning their faith also.
hey all,.
ok...i know for a fact that you have all probably heard this before but i am new here so i don't really know all the topics that have been discussed.
so, at the risk of repeating past topics.....here i go.... i am 16 years old and have a boyfriend who is a jw.
When my b/frd wanted to marry me - I was JW and he was not - I didn't even introduce him to my parents until we went to tell them we were getting married. It is SO taboo to date a "worldly" boy that no one knew of his existence. He'd never met any of my friends or family members as I wished to avoid the whole scene. I'd say your b'frd is pretty brave actually to have ever brought you out in the open. Of course, your agreeing to study was key to the whole thing. All their hopes are that you will "see the light".
Speaking to your preist:
Good idea - my b/frd had the same doubts as you and had gone and talked to his pastor. They discussed the pros and cons of marriage with no unity in faith. The pastor shared with him a book on CULTS and JW's were dealt with in one chapter. We broke up as he realized this was more serious of an issue than he'd originally wanted to believe.
To make a long story short: The breakup didn't last long - we married - he converted 10 years later (not in a whole souled manner) - and now after 25 years, we have EXITED together. You can only fool yourself for so long and we both finally admitted to each other that it was all a load of crap. For us, better late than never - but for you - I would hope you'd never have to be untrue to yourself or let any organization control your thinking.
All the best to you,
4JWY
i received a big fat happy buddah statue for my new feng shui beleif system.
Hope you enjoyed your special day !
Happy Birthday
i was on ebay the other day and i saw a bethel family manual.
then i went back to look for it and it is gone.
has anyone a copy of this or know where i could get my grubby paws on one?.
I just read the whole "Manual" ~ should be retitled, "LIFE FOR DUMMIES" ~ what a load of crap! The whole thing sounds like a storybook for 3 year olds.