hey ladies and gentlemen, im vampmonk (obviously) and im new to this thing... i just wanted to ask for any advice possible.
i'm an athiest.
i apologise forehand if this offends any one, but such are the decisions we make in life, but back to my situation.
I was that girl once (or more). The guys finally realized the differences were just too dramatic to build their life around and moved on. They were very wise to do so and 25 & 30 years later, we now talk about it together and I assure them they made the right decision.
All the best to you,
4 JWY
earlier this year, i posted that my mom suffered a stroke and we had to put her in a nursing home.
i got a call a little while ago that my mom just suffered another stroke.
she's in the hospital in icu.
hello Dave ~
So sorry for the difficult time you are facing ~ I know it hurts so deeply to see a parent suffering and afflicted with a condition that you can't change. Just be there for each other and your mom will feel your love for her. I will send positive thoughts your way.
Regards,
4JWY
fisrt i am not a jw anymore,i was basicaly raised in the jw faith,from age 6 to age 16,then i left,then i got married,my new wife wanted to know about jw's,so i took her to the meetings,now,when i went back i saw what they they had taught me as a child,all the same,i saw things that were not to my likeing,or what i thought were right ,but i still remained,i can only say this about the jw's,they are people like everyone else,they dont beleive in killing other people,,they dont dont beleive fornication,,theifvery,you all here know all this,so go ahead and throw stones at them,they to me are no different than any other people trieng to be good in a wild and wicked world,so what if they teach isnt tasteful to you,get over it,how many jew's didnt like what the jewish preist taught?i have met many other ex jw's,all whineing and wimpering about how jw's did this and did that,guys and gals,it was the jehovah that did it,it was the people you were in direct contact with,(non perfect humans)its the same as when you were in school,maybe a teacher didnt teach you everything you needed to know,well there is a libiray in schools,they have all the books so you can learn on your own,now i noticed some of you here have learned a lot,butbut if think your gonna just get by ,by hearing what some what says is truth,you can forget that,you got a big surprise waiting for you.even though i am not a jw.i do defend them,as i do any faihful regilous person who realy beleives in what they beleive in,you have to remember the main deal is ,god reads the hearts of the people ,so no matter who or where they are,he knows all he needs to know,there is nothing he doesnt see,and with that you should know that what ever you want to think or beleive,he see;s inside your heart,he knows if you or we ,are earnest in what we are doing,so thats all that matters,and i also must admit,jw's did open my eyes to a lot things ,such as all the faslehoods in the world,all the traditions of man,all there pagonistist rituals intertwined into the holidays of today,so i can asume some of you just got pissed off because you cant do the birthday thing ,(as my fleshly brother did) and christmas,all that other crap,but who cares anyways,money is the key of the world,and jw's never hid that fact,in fact i was raised to work hard and make money,to support my family,feed and clothe them,and all that goes with it,dont cheat and lie or steal,dont do drugs,dont be a drunkard,dont adultriate,fornicate,you all know the teachings,once again go ahead and bash them with stones,they did nothing good what so ever,all they did was screw up everyones mind,yeh right,like i said get over it,if you dont want to be a jw,fine do as i did leave them,they wont stop you,but you cant blame them for trieng to do what they beleive in,most not all of the ex jw's i have met try so hard to find fault with them,well you know what ,it easy to find fault in every one on this planet,no one is perfect,now what do you think of jehovah is the main issue not the ones telling about him,(when who else would)all the other groups do is try to hide that name,try to pull you into there churchs to get that 10th tideing thing,never once did i feel like i had to give anything to the jw's,in fact many of them (the people) did nothing short of bend over backwards to help me in many ways,but either way,you all read it,you all here know it,just like the book said,no one will have an excuse to say they didnt know,at least you did get a good teaching and learning of how to read the bible,for yourselves,you can call me an apostate, or what ever you want,it doesnt matter to me at all,i know what the thruth is,and i dont need any group of people to make me feel complete in life,call me anti social if you want,but i dont have to worry about aids,or getting robbed by friends(so called)dont have to worry about much of anything,i call on the name of jehovah ,and he heres me,he even answers me,and yes he helps me in every way of my life,the entire message that the jw's teach is call on jehovah,he is there for you all,and you dont have to in the jehovah's wittness's for him to hear you,i could go on and on,but i wont,probily wont even post here or read any replies of my post,i just stumbled across this site,and figured i would my 2 cents in,so i say now,live long and prosper,be well and happy all of humanity is my wish,thank you for place to post it host
I don't know what the question was that you are supplying an answer to, and I can't help but wonder what kind of school you went to during your formative JW years. Your spelling is deplorable.
I do wish you a happy life.
4JWY
a c.o in one of his friday night talks noticed when he was invited for meals at the brothers and sisters homes that everyone has their chairs and sofa's pointed at the direction of the television set and asked why do people do that.
then he went on to strongly suggest that everyone change this and either have their furniture pointed somewhere else or get rid of the television.
what a total moron!!
micheal :
Sounds like that CO is promoting those feng shu (sp?) ideas. Seems I remember the condemnation of that in the mags!
its me sienna....now not only did i post but i have my own name as well...yaaay!!!.
arent you proud sassy.
well for all of you who don't know me..im a 23 year old ex-jw from cali....disfellowshiped three years ago for being pregnant...well....actually for how i got pregnant...but you know what i mean.
.... Warmest welcome to "me" !
my mom has shunned my df'd sister for 10+ years.
my brothers and i are not baptised and she will have a relationship with us even though its very strained.
we have gotten together a few times over the years and had a meal together that mom cooked.
((((unbeliever))))
Hang in there, I'm on your side -
4JWY
yesterday i was having a debate with my mother (who bucks the jw system by still talking to me even though i'm df'd, my parents are the only relatives who will see me) and she was going on about how the only people she ever knew who committed suicide had lost jehovah's holy spirit.
she said the same thing of people who go on medication, that it's the same as drug use and that its opening the door for demons.. that was when i finally dropped the bomb on her, that i have been on anti-depressants on and off for more than 10 years.
i have stopped taking them cold several times when i needed to (got pregnant, other reasons for another day) so they are not addictive.
Corvin ~
Been there, done that too - what a joke!! You and the kids probably received the same "counsel" we did.
yesterday i was having a debate with my mother (who bucks the jw system by still talking to me even though i'm df'd, my parents are the only relatives who will see me) and she was going on about how the only people she ever knew who committed suicide had lost jehovah's holy spirit.
she said the same thing of people who go on medication, that it's the same as drug use and that its opening the door for demons.. that was when i finally dropped the bomb on her, that i have been on anti-depressants on and off for more than 10 years.
i have stopped taking them cold several times when i needed to (got pregnant, other reasons for another day) so they are not addictive.
Hi Fleur ~
Please tell your mom on my behalf that she is sadly mistaken in her views. My dad, who was known to be "full of Jehovah's holy spirit", the most zealous and active brother in his congregation, is now dead, by suicide after living his life, according to the mind controlling WTS. He carried little cards in his wallet with quotes from the WA and AW regarding their damning view of psychiatry since the 60's, to remind him that it was wrong to go for help from such a worldly one. It would be a threat to his faith. When he had no choice but to seek their help, he was consumed with guilt and used the whole session to preach to the guy. My father was his Dr's first patient ever lost to suicide, and he was very interested to meet with us for further info that could assist him in dealing with JW patients.
All the best to you,
4JWY
the 2 jw convension-halls in the netherlands have now a bank/credit-card accespoint to give contribution to the wts with your bank or creditcards.
do you know this happens in other country's?
it is really strange to see that brs&srs are giving donations with their visa & mastercards.
cynicus: WOW! Thank you for posting that info - ....now, that I am sick..... all the smiling faces as they decide to give their money to a cult!
she came into my life and brought the sun to chase away my darkness.
she held me when i was sad.
and kissed away the tears.
MAY YOU HAVE MANY MORE AND ENJOY EACH ONE MORE THAN THE LAST
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