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  Did it ever occur you were defiling your body too?

  by NotaNess in

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  "no smoking".... it defiles your body and goes against scripture.. so as a witness, when pushing this train of thought, did it ever occur to anyone that when ever you dug in to those fried eggs, bacon cheeseburgers, and gallons of icecream, you were doing the same exact thing?.

  smoking over a long period of time can kill you.

  eating artery congesting foods over a long period of time can kill you.

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  If you live long enough, it will kill you.
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  Will there be death in paradise?

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.

  imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.

  they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.

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  I'm not cleaning up anything! I didn't make the mess, and I am not going to clean it up. Further, (and I have said this to some of my friends) if living forever means

  having to spend eternity with the bunch of smucks I have known in the Org. over the years, then I look forward to sleeping eternity away.
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  Do you ever feel that the elders were your friends?

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  or do you feel that they were just company men, doing what they had to do, to keep people in line.

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  The problem is like OTWO said: They will chose the Org. over you. They will betray your confidences to the ORG. It is one reason many men step aside.

  It offended me the way some brothers were talked about, and how even the intimate deatils of a person told in confidence to other elders were freely shared

  in a BOE meeting. The entire arrangement is unkind and unloving. I don't know of anyone with a conscience who can stay an elder for very long. I couldn't.
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  Development of the 'meetings'

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering if anyone knew how what became the 'meetings' came into being.

  say from the time russell printed the watchtower, to congregations forming and a particular format being followed.. i guess this question arose in my mind because to become a member of a religion/organisation you have to comply to a set of rules or guidelines that make you more unique to that particular religion.

  the jw's have specific meetings, and this is one area i was curious to see the development of.

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  Mad:

  Surely, you jest.
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  Help me describe the idealized JW fantasyland

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  based on the illustrations in the books & magazines, and the videos produced by the society, describe the world that the gb would like jws to live in.. for example.... -- parties never have more than 15 persons attending.

  entertainment consists of one chap playing a guitar while the rest sing kingdom melodies, followed by stimulating conversations of "field service experiences" and "how i came into the truth".

  -- children of all ages are perfectly well-behaved for the full 2 hours of a congregation meeting.

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  Scwharzennegger angels in pairs accompany sisters through dangerous neighborhoods, invisibly directing them to those sighing and groaning, and visibly malevolent

  to hurtful wolves in the territory.
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  1919 Appointment

  by garybuss in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when jesus appointed the watch tower corporation as his only channel on earth in 1919, what did he appoint?

  did he appoint the people?

  they're all dead now.. did he appoint the printing equipment?

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  A dead man doesn't accept a blood tranfusion.

  A dead man doesn't salute the flag.
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  Lurking Elders Watching the Board / more info about the newbie.

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to answer alligator wisdom's request for more info on myself...it will have to come out in trickles.

  i am a prolific writer if i allow myself.

  for now, i will tell you that until recently i was an elder.

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  Welcome. I was a pioneer and elder myself up to a few months ago. I am glad that I was because it enabled me to see things that the average dub is not exposed to. You get to see

  the sausage being made. I am still in but fading fast. Haven't been to ANY book study since the Revelation Book began to be studied again.

  One of my friends, a little older than I, whispered in my ear the other day: We love you no matter what you believe. So, there is hope for others but the mind fog is a powerful thing.

  Good luck.
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  I know we're not supposed to speculate, but....

  by journey-on in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  based on a post today about the decrease in incoming donations to the wts and this.

  i believe that the new mag arrangement starting next jan is the beginning of the wt becoming a really, really dangerous cult.

  from another post, i speculate that the "for jws only" issue of the watchtower is going to be heavy on $$$ issues.

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  The WT has outsourced almost everything at the Bethel with the exception of literature and mag. printing. I think if they could sell the Roland Mann presses they would even outsource

  the printing as Gary said. Maybe they have a plan in the works.

  All they need are their cadre of sycophants. And as much as membership may slow, there will always be plenty of those.

  As for speculating, only the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is allowed to speculate.
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  Nine JW assumptions about 1914 and Daniel 4

  by a Christian in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just sent this letter to a jw who came knocking on my door talking to me about 1914. i doubt it does him much good since he will probably not read it.

  first, you assume that when christ spoke of the the times of the gentiles he was referring to a period of time which began when jerusalem was destroyed by babylon and would end with his enthronement in heaven.

  ), the year in which the bible tells us that he destroyed jerusalem.

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  Excellent.
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  Don't read this!! As I am really P....off at the WT and have to vent

  by RedPill2006 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i have realized (once more) how the watchtower shit cult has ruined my life!

  today i am really pissed off at them...... i'm writing this hoping that two groups of people read this.

  either some watchtower people that monitor this site or people that think to join this crap!.

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  zack

  I was an elder and pioneer, too. A TRUE believer. Sucker is more like it......

  Welcome. Stay a while. I'm still livid over the crap of this man-made belief system.

  Live well. That's the best revenge.

  Zack-----