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  The Effect of Losing Elders

  by metatron in

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  losing elders in the us puts the organization into quite a dilemma.

  they hate large congregations.

  but can't split without enough appointed local 'enforcers'.

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  zack

  Youngloves: LMAO!!!!

  Seriously, the amount of busy work the Branch gives the congregation is appalling. Correspondence. Audits. Lit. orders. More correspondence. The CO calling cause he needs something done on his apartment. Correspondence for more money. Correspondence re legal issues, holding meetings off site, insurance, maintenance of the hall. Co visits. Appointents. Endless lists of bullshit to circulate.

  NOTHING ever about developing a richer life. NOTHING ever about being a better person. NOTHING ever about helping the needy, the poor, the old. NOTHING.

  The ORG. uses and abuses. The smart elders get out while they're still sane.

  Great post.
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  J.W= No beards-clean shaven, short hair...even Jesus???!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you remember all the publications in the 1950-1960's pictures showing a jesus clean shaven with short hair???.

  watch.

  1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

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  zack

  My problem with the 'No Beard" stance was the dishonesty of the justification. That's because the religion pride's itself on not having "rules" like other religions or the pharisees.

  But in order to maintain order and walk in lockstep like a theocratic army (which the WTS has likened itself to) the org. needs rules. So why can't they bring themselves

  to just be honest and say: "Look. This is the way we want it. It has no basis in scripture, but it is how we wish to project ourselves." But no! They have to go on and on

  about all this other BS which has NOTHING to do with anything. And the going on and on, the justificatios, the rationalizations ad infinitum, is what ALWAYS rubbed

  me the wrong way. Why can't they be honest and upfront? Now i know why. They are incapable of honesty, because honesty takes humility and the leadership has

  never possessed humility. And if even in something so little and inconsequential as wearing your own facial hair they can prove dishonest and disingenueos, how can they

  be trusted with the consequential things? The life and death matters? According to their own Bible, they CAN"T.

  These guys are evil, man. EVIL.
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  Awake 1980- Movie "The Exorcist 1+2 will cause demonic attacks and murders!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awake 1980 had a mission.

  attack these two movies!

  voted: "the scariest movie of all time," this is what was said about "the exorcist" and the sequel.. awake 1980 12/8 p.11 "since the release of "the exorcist some years ago, many reports are on file of the adverse effects it had on many who saw it.

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  zack

  Okay, the movie was scary. But goodnight, it was a MOVIE! The WTS hates anything that is even remotely entertaining. As for demon possession, how do they do it? The Bible says God has reserved them for judgement with ETERNAL BONDS. So God put them in prison with chains, so to speak. So the ones that possess people somehow managed to escape? What happened to the jailer angel? Did he get a transfer? Religion is all about fear and the WTS loves it.
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  OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  e-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.

  he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.

  that the context is key.

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  zack

  I am so glad I don't have to hear the crap anymore.

  Good luck.
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  Is There Free Will In Heaven?

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  christians will say the reason there's so much evil in the world is because of free will.

  even christians will 'sin' on occasion, but they believe they can be forgiven.

  free will is seen as a bad thing...?.

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  zack

  No such thing as Free Will.
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  Faith vs Accurate Knowledge

  by writetoknow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although that organization may presently be under going a name change do to recent sex scandals plaguing the group.. .

  basing their doctrinal teaching of accurate knowledge from john17: 3 of the new world translation.

  however, other translation put the verse this way: and this is eternal life; to know thee, the only true god and jesus christ whom thou hast sent.

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  zack

  The scripture from the Greek doesn't say "accurate knowledge", at least not in the Kingdon Interlinear. It says "know"--- the emphasis on knowledge is as you say, accurate in as much as the GB approves and provides. This is why they are so heinous. They have assigned themselves the role of gatekeeper to the Father and the Son.
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  WHA WAS THE TURNING POINT FOR YOU IN JWS

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi.. just wondering what it was that first made you realise that jws didnt have the absolute "truth"?

  was there a specific event/turning point for you or was it a moment of enlightenment?.

  chukky.

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  zack

  Becoming an elder pretty much nailed it for me. My actual epiphany came at the Pioneer Service School when the CO commented regarding Nathan Knorr: "Nathan Knorr was only 37 years old when God appointed him over the whole planet! Only 37! Can you imangine that?"

  No. I couldn't.
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  Will the Book Study ever be dropped from the weekly meetings?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the book study is one of the most useless meetings.

  the same books have been studied 3 or 4 times.the meeting takes only an hour but takes up most of your evening.

  and, it is one of the least attended meetings.. why haven't they combined the watchtower study with just question and answer and then follow with the book study with just question and answer?

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  This is the meeting they should do away with. One less night a week would mean so much to the average hurried dub. But the GB won't do it. They're like Rehoboam.
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  What happens when we die?

  by Tatiana in

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  2. friends

  is death an end, a beginning, or just another stage on the path?

  i watched a movie last night called the eye 2. it was about the buddhist belief in reincarnation.

  in the movie, souls wait for women to give birth in order to reincarnate into the baby.

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  zack

  My deepest sympathy to you.

  As to the point of your post, who knows? No one knows. We all "beleive" in different things, but no one knows. My hope is that a loving God--- not the God described by the

  Watchtower--- but that gentlest and kindest of all spirits has something better for us, something more. And to me, one needn't beleive in the immortality of the soul to beleive that

  something of us lives on after our physical death. I do not beleive this is all there is. Having said that, I also beleive in enjoying this life today. Having joy, making friends, seeing different

  landscapes. Perhaps the gift from the Creator was to be human for a little while and to be able to enjoy the physical today and the spiritual tomorrow. As for being in God's "memory",

  isn't that perhaps like asking an old friend "don't forget me" when one moves away to another far away place? We still live, we just don't want to be forgotten simply because we are out of

  sight. It doesn't make us a collection of thoughts in someone's brain.

  Whatever the case, I hope you find comfort, friend.

  And.... questions are good.... it is people that can be evil.
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  Bored...So I just called Ted Jaracz...

  by deaconbluez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, couldn't believe i actually got him on the phone.

  he asked who it was and i just gave a fake name and sounded official.

  i finally asked his thoughts on the 1914 date and how that teaching seems to be expiring.

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  zack

  Gee, I thought even Almighty God was never too busy to listen to even to the least of men. You'd think His only Channel of communication on Earth would have the same attitude.

  "Rabbi, tell us when these things will be and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the systems of things?"

  "Fellas, I was about to answer with an inscrutable riddle, but I have decided to refer you to my Office of Public Information. That way I can't be blamed for your misinterpretation of

  my prophecies."