CAN YOU SAY: DAMAGE CONTROL?
I'M GLAD I'M NOT AN ELDER ANYMORE.
Posts by zack
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43Week long Elders school announced
by JWFreak inat the agm it was announced that all elders in the us will attend a weeks 5 days kingdom ministry school next year.
there will be a different class held at patterson each week until all us elders have attended.
not sure about other countries.
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Don't Overthink The Watchtower Society
by metatron ini often read various attempts at explanations of whatever changes the watchtower society comes up.
with that suggest a collective intelligence greater than anything i've actually observed.
when i left bethel, many years ago, i believed that jehovah was guiding this organization because i. didn't see much depth of intelligence in the governing body.
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zack
In the land of the pig, the butcher is king
------ Meatloaf
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An email from my Dad on Bible Chronology - Armegeddon's arrival
by eclipse ini cannot provide any background info on my dad except to say that he is not an attender anymore, but is not apostate.. years ago, my dad showed me why he thought 1975 was wrong, and he gave me a date like 2011, 2012...back in 2004.. it actually made sense to me back then, and obve's posts reminded me of my dad's calculations..... only my dad's calculations were not based on addition or multiplying of random crazy numbers, .
but actually were logical assumptions based on the scriptures as he understood them.. here is his email to me...it might be lengthy, but it is easy to follow and understand.
(sorry for the large font, it was the font he used in the email.
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zack
Ditto what Para said.
The WTS carrot is NOT DIEING.
The REQUIREMENT of Jesus gospel is DEATH.
The WTS DO NOT beleive nor preach the gospel of Christ.
And even as a child I could remember thinking to myself that if ANYONE could figure out the date of Jesus return, it would be Jesus himself. Geez! I should have written all that down when i was eight and mailed it to myself for delivery at thirteen.
Thanks for sharing your Dad's thoughts.
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zack
I guess, so far, the answer would be "no."
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zack
Anyone going? Know anyone that is?
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Did you get a little pressured to get baptized young?
by outofthebox inwe saw an elder the other night trying to convince a couple of kids that they were ready to be unbaptized publishers.
and then he went and added that he was baptized very young and they should too.
so, these two kids were feeling the pressure.
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zack
The effect of the choice given me at the age of fourteen was the same as the effect of a gun being put to my head. We were talking about our own personal experiences, right?
So when I, as a child, was repeatedly told that God would smite me and the crows would eat the eyes out of my still warm flesh as the Almighty's angels sang in praise of the
slaughter IF I did not get baptized (because baptism was the mark of survival, the mark that the angels would recognize, the ink on the forehead!), this was not about serving God, it was
not about loving God, it was not about even being loving to me---- it was a threat, a coercion. Sure, JW's tell you it is your own personal choice---- kind of when a gunmen holds a gun to
the head of bank teller and demands the money--- the teller has choice, right?
Think about it. And welcome to the forum.
God and the Watchtower are way seperate, my friend.
Enjoy!
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Presiding Overseer's wife publically reproved.
by ThomasCovenant inlatest gossip round these here parts is that the wife of the presiding overseer has been 'publically reproved'.
nothing has filtered through about what the 'crime' was yet.. they are a young couple and he appears to me to be very conscientious in doing his best for the brothers.
i feel sorry for them as i have seen the pressure on them to juggle the demands of the cong with his wife who i think may suffer from depression.. thanks.
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zack
Can't you feel the love at those meetings? Don't you miss being privy to the intimate details of a person's life? Don't you delight in witnessing their pain,
their failings, their sins? Isn't God's Organization wonderful!!!! They are the happiest people on the WHOLE PLANET!
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What is the key that unlocks the mental grip of the WT?
by LennyinBluemont inive wondered this from time to time, especially in trying to figure out how i finally broke free and in looking at the stories of others.
if you asked me a few years ago, i probably would have said either seeing too much hypocrisy or suffering the last straw of spiritual and/or emotional abuse.
but i know in my case and others, even that wasnt enough to break the mental shackles.
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zack
I don't know of any one "key." For me it was this: I lost my fear. Once I wasn't afraid of all the consequences that the WT preach will befall you if you leave them, I was free.
I simply said to myself (and now say to others): If I will be judged on what I myself am and what I myself do, then I need no one else telling me who to be or what to do."
If there is a God and a judgement, then I would rather stand on my own after having LIVED for my own, than stand on my own after having LIVED for the GB.
Lose the fear and gain your FREEDOM.
Peace.
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Did you get a little pressured to get baptized young?
by outofthebox inwe saw an elder the other night trying to convince a couple of kids that they were ready to be unbaptized publishers.
and then he went and added that he was baptized very young and they should too.
so, these two kids were feeling the pressure.
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zack
Absolutely. Got baptized at 14. I wanted to be on God's side when he decided to smite all the wicked non-baptized people on the whole planet. They might as well have held a gun to my head---- at least that would have been more honest.
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Have you ever forgotten your baby was in the car?
by changeling inwhat's up with this wave of people forgetting their babies are in the car?
i'm a certifiable dingbat but i never forgot my kids were in the car.
if i ever did, i can't see it happening for more than a few minutes and then running back to the car to get them.
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zack
I do not understand and cannot fathom how ANYONE can forget their child is in the car. It is beyond the pale. On the other hand, those enormous car seats
parents are supposed to use nowadays for kids (in some states for kids who weigh up to 75lbs.) does make it easier for a parent who did not originally place their
child in the seat to be unaware a child is in the car if the child is sleeping, because it takes them out of their routine, i.e., child seat, sealt belt adjustment, etc....
Still, I have a very difficult time with the stories about children dieing in parking lots from dehydration and hyperthermia due to the negligence of a parent. It infuriates me
and saddens me at the same time.