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  For those of you who don't go to meetings anymore...

  by exwitless in

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  when you attended your last meeting ever as a dub, did you know it was your last?

  did something happen which made it clear in your mind you were 'never going back' (not to be confused with nvrgnbk)?.

  the last meeting we went to was the memorial in 2006. we only went because we knew we were already pegged for the elders' unwanted attention, so we had to go to keep them off our backs a little longer.

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  Last meeting was in April of 2007. I quit cold turkey. I resigned the office of overseer, went to the Memorial and then the Special Talk. The special Talk was it-- the last one.

  That last Memorial felt so creepy. Everyone was so happy about NOT going to heaven (whether or not you're a believer, JW's profess to be Christians, and yet deny the basic

  tenet of being a "Christian"); there was much emphasis on NOT PARTAKING, and OBEDIENCE to the FDS. It occurred to me that the reason why I had never felt God's Spirit was either

  because the was no such thing, or if there was, the JW's must be anti-Christ. Even at the yearly commemoration of his death, Christ was peculiarly inconspicuos, unappreciated,

  misunderstood, abandoned, and disrespected.

  I promised my wife I'd go the Special Talk. I did.

  I will NEVER GO BACK.
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  God helped me get through it...

  by LtCmd.Lore in

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  or: "i couldn't have got through it without god's spirit.".

  i hear it constantly, but i have no idea exactly what it's supposed to mean.

  so if one of your relatives dies, and you pray for help: unless you die, or have a nervous breakdown you got through it, correct?

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  God might be too busy with the CMA awards. Seems all the winners really thanked him for making their awards possible.
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  What do you call it when....

  by zack in

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  your mother-in-law drives off a cliff in your new mercedes?.

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  .........a dilemma.

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  your mother-in-law drives off a cliff in your new Mercedes?

  .........a dilemma
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  Told my Wife WTS tactics were evil

  by zack in

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  2. friends

  we both know a couple that have been inactive for almost a decade.

  this week they were disfellowshipped because someone had seen christmas decorations.

  on their home last year!

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  zack

  I told my wife last July how I felt about the WTS, how it was a lie, etc.... Our relationship cooled a bit after that and we arrived at a don't ask/don't tell kind of

  policy. I just could not help keeping from commenting about this situation because, not only is it all fuc*** up, but an excellent example of everything that is fuc**** with

  the Borg. When i explained to her in human terms that the Borg, instead of giving these girls/now women a hug when they were the victims of repeated abuse, they

  disfellowshipped them and their supporters for speaking truth and sicked their lawyers on them, I saw her shudder. She didn't want to hear anymore. She could not

  repudiate what I had said because IT WAS THE TRUTH.

  Will there be any fallout? There might be. I'm ready for it at this point. I long ago removed the blood card from my person and appointed a worldy friend as my health care proxy.
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  Told my Wife WTS tactics were evil

  by zack in

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  we both know a couple that have been inactive for almost a decade.

  this week they were disfellowshipped because someone had seen christmas decorations.

  on their home last year!

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  zack

  We both know a couple that have been inactive for almost a decade. This week they were disfellowshipped because someone had seen Christmas decorations

  on their home LAST YEAR! a decade they have been gone and the elders track them down and disfellowship them. Their reasoning? They are both prominent in the community

  and as such the congregation could not tolerate their "blatant" display of paganism.

  I told my wife that this was a tactic of power. That the WTS care nothing about sin or repentance. They are there to teach you who is boss and will do anything they can to

  destroy your familial relationships and friendhsips. It is not about recovering a sinner, but punishing any who dare to leave. They are not CHRISTIAN! I then went on to tell her

  about the sex abuse settlements. She said absolutely nothing. She had no answer, no rebuttle. I spoke facts. I did not argue doctrine.

  I hate these people. WTF going after a family who has been away for 10 years? These guys are evil. I truely am disgusted.
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  Have elders lost power they once had over the flock?

  by Fisherman in

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  the wts still gives the elders the same authority over the cong as before but is the cong controlled as much by the elders?.

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  Once you understand that half these guys are morons, you lose all fear of them.
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  Church buys minister a Rolls Royce

  by Burger Time in

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  this was great.

  especially the quote, "without a doubt, my life is not average," he said.

  "but i'd like to say, just because it is excessive doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong.".

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  The members of these churches know what these ministers are all about... they aren't hiding their lifestyles.... if people want to supplement them, let them do it.

  As long as they're not taking advantage of tax laws, who cares? I think Grassley needs to worry about the date rape drug in toys from China, and less about this bunch.
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  Well I finally resigned as an elder - Phew.

  by The Scotsman in

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  thats right, about 2 weeks ago i confronted the po and told him i just could not do it anymore.. i genuinely have been under alot of pressure recently with my work so i used this as the pitch.

  he was not happy but i received little resistance, which suited me.

  i handed him my letter last week before i went on holiday.. i have to say it is a great weight off my shoulders, no book study, meetings for ministry, talks, public talks etc etc.. i will no doubt be the subject of local congregation gossip!

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  Great to have you in the club!
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  So close to sending in the letter

  by PoppyR in

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  so, i found out today that my whole family, that is mother, older brother wife and child, older sister and husband, younger brother and wife have gone away together for a week.. previously i would have been right in the center of all that.

  this time i didn't even know until after they'd gone.

  cant say it doesn't hurt, what a punch to the gut.

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  Be true to yourself.
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  Recovery of an Adult Convert (Reconnecting with Loved Ones)

  by lonelysheep in

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  it is my third year out and a heavy period of recovery.

  speaking of which, i thought i was recovered!.

  you know that as jw's, the rule is to stay away from anyone who is essentially persuading you to not be associated with 'jehovah's people'.

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  Damn, Warlock, I've been making the same calculation.