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this is the letter i just recently sent to my uncle.
he replied
its not hypocritical.
Thanks guys.
My mum and dad are no longer dubs and they're great, but live in anothre state. My Uncle lives 30 minutes from me and when I was first DF'ed said they would always be there for me no matter what. That's what I fing so hard to deal with, they'll be there anly if I come back to meetings and try to get reinstated. It's just so typical.
(((((((thanks all))))))
this is the letter i just recently sent to my uncle.
he replied
its not hypocritical.
This is the letter i just recently sent to my Uncle. He invited me to the Memorial, i told him I would not be there as I thought it was hypocritical just to go to the memorial. He replied
If you love Jehovah miss your extended family want your children to have everlasting life Its not hypocritical. Love you lots
This is my reply to him
Dear Uncle ****, Yes I do love my children and my extended family. I have issues that I need cleared up. I know you love me and I made some bad choices in life. I know I was the one that got disfellowshipped, but in some cases I feel let down a great deal by my extended family. When I told you how violent C*** had become, (If you don't believe this you maybe would like to see the police reports and court orders I had to get out against him just to feel safe in my own home. He has been incredibly abusive towards me, including calling me many things in front of my children(eg a prostitute and a whore) some of these things witnesses by J****.) you said nothing too this. I did not expect you to all come running, but maybe a how are you may have been appropriate. You said you would always be there for me, when I needed a little care I got nothing. The elders in a few congregations know about this and nothing was done. I find it hard to believe that an organisation that says it is built on love can take this stance, can condone the behaviour of a violent and continually abusive man and remove me, who in a huge moment of weakness does something that is totally out of her character. I was and am still incredibly sorry for what I did, if I could go back and change it I would. I still at the moment find it hard to walk into a Kingdom Hall and deal with the hostility I receive there. You may say to go to a different Hall, but I have done that in the past, before I got disfellowshipped, trying to deal with the lack of support and out right alienation we received after reporting K*****'s abuse. If this organisation is based on love, care and unity then why do I have to move around to try and find it, shouldn't it be in all the Kingdom Halls I go to. I know there are a lot of witnesses that are great and fantastic people, I still get a little support from them. Unfortunately they are the ones that are viewed of by other witnesses as weak and have asked me not to say anything as they are fearful of being disfellowshipped themselves. All I know is that in most cases disfellowshipping does more harm than good, It does not do what it is supposed to do. When one day I get reinstated I have vowed to never alienate someone who is disfellowshipped. Until you have been disfellowshipped you will never know how incredibly debilitating it is for someone's soul. I still love you all very much and look forward to the day that we can all be back together again, Love to all, Leah and the Kids. Please let me know when and where the Memorial is, if I'm feeling strong enough I will be there.
This is what I recieved from him
We read and understand everything you have written with the greatest empathy. I t must be awful to the soul to be in such a position. I truly am very sorry you are there, and always hopeful you are strong enough to make a return to where you belong. J ehovah truly loves you. His human creation imperfect and fragile as we all are. Although we would be unable to talk to you, our hearts will be overjoyed to see you there.
Well after that I resolve that I would NOT be going to the memorial and I am NEVER going back to another meeting. I'm glad I have true friends whom I can share this with. Those who truly accept me for whom I am. Leah. xoxoxo.
sometimes when i'm feeling stuck and all the jw "stuff" of my past overwhelms me i get out my old recovery literature and go through it.
this little gem really helped me recently and i thought i would share it with you, maybe it will help someone else struggling with the "what ifs" of life and moving on.. .
letting go.
Thanks for sharing that bikerchick
I got goose bumps all over.
Very true all of them.
i just spent 5 days down in devon in the south west of england and had a fantastic time unwinding and seeing my 2 nans, catching up with my cousins, having a couple of beers in a pub with my extended family the other side of the country.
it was fantastic to see them all again.
i'm a sucker for being made a fuss of.
Spending time with my grand-children, even if they do give me a run for my money.
For or to your money.LOL My kids keep their grantparents broke
i would just like to send a big hug to my sister scrappykat who has just recently joined this board.
jwd has been such an eye opener and making me think and now hopefully she will experience the same things i have.
just having it reconfirmed in our minds that it is not the 'troof' can be so damned comforting!
Welcome ScrappyKat.
Hope you have as much fun here as you sis does.
Wish my Sister would look here
do the gb go door to door...i was just wondering with all their bethel work and convention running and globe trotting whether anyone has 'witnessed' (sic) them actually going from door to door..(studies dont count)
Did some research and this is what I found, Apparently they are supposed too.!!!!
5 The reigning King Jesus Christ gave an enlarged assignment to his steward, or house manager, on earth. Anointed Christians were to be "ambassadors" of God substituting for a crowned king empowered to rule over all the peoples of the earth. (2 Corinthians 5:20; Daniel 7:14) Their collective responsibility was no longer to be only that of giving Christ?s body of anointed attendants "their measure of food supplies at the proper time." (Luke 12:42) They were now to take an active part in the working out of the prophecies due to be fulfilled after the Kingdom?s establishment in 1914.6
What did this mean in actual practice? It meant expanding the preaching of ?this good news of the kingdom to all the inhabited earth.? (Matthew 24:14) Moreover, it meant publishing powerful messages of judgment against Satan?s wicked system and its supporters. This had the effect of ?rocking the nations.? Thus, "desirable things," Christ?s "other sheep," began to come in. (Haggai 2:7; John 10:16) From 1935 onward, the "great crowd" began to flock into Jehovah?s organization worldwide. (Revelation 7:9, 10) This called for progressive improvements in organization. Symbolically speaking, stones were to be replaced by iron, wood by copper, iron by silver, and copper by gold. (Isaiah 60:17) All of this has taken place since 1919 under the active and close direction of Jesus Christ, who has committed all his earthly Kingdom interests, or belongings, to his faithful slave class and its Governing Body.
March 15 1990. Watchtower. Pg.15 - 20, Co-Operating with the Governing Body
this topic has been covered many times, in many different ways, but let's open this for discussion: if the witnesses allowed an elder per congregation to be trained as a "pastoral counselor" as other religions do, would that make it more bearable to be a witness and play by their rules?
would it lessen the number of depressed, suicidal people who feel they have no reason to live?.
nina
yes i think it would but i dont think it will nappen cos there would have to be some kinda 'worldly' training and the solutions offered would then be different to pray more, do more fs, study more
I agree, but it will never happen. Not unless it became a legal issue. It's funny how it's ok for them to train lawyers to help the organisation but not therapists to deal with the emotional well being off the cong. They should also be trained to deal with vicitms of sexual assault.
has anyone been in the position of losing scriptural grounds for divorce?.
what forgives a guilty mate?
a. kissing.
hey welcome little t, just saw it was your first post.
Yes it depends if you knew of the adultery first is the key issue.
If you are unaware your partners affair then no you have mot forfeited you scriptual divorce rights.
has anyone been in the position of losing scriptural grounds for divorce?.
what forgives a guilty mate?
a. kissing.
pretty much a return to the marriage bed it what clinches the Forfeiting of Spiritual Grounds.
Q. Is it possible for a pedophile to "steal" the grounds for divorce from an innocent mate?
unsure of what you mean.