More of the promo for the Dateline show. The elders told her don't or else.
ARoarer
JoinedPosts by ARoarer
-
DON'T OR ELSE!!!!
by ARoarer inmore of the promo for the dateline show.
the elders told her don't or else.
-
-
9
Local Reaction to Dateline (NJ)
by obiefernandez inhere are some very interesting comments made to me by an active jw friend in north nj:.
i just went to the website that you sent in your e-mail about the pandelos!
wow!
-
-
ARoarer
Obie, I know the girl who is making the comments you've quoted here. She has not bothered with our family since the wedding. Her choice. Her statement the the purpose of the trial was to "get money" is a typical ignorant Jehovah Witness statement. The purpose of the trial was to expose the evil of our daughter's molester, and to publicize his behaviour. Tell your "friend" that if the purpose was to "get money" we would have settled the case years ago. How dare this former friend of Cori make such statements. "They barely won a percentage of what they asked for" is another typical gossip statement that circulates among those who have chosen to abandon our daughter. No amount of money was EVER ASKED FOR. "The Jury gave them some blame because they let her go to the Grandfather's house when they may have known of him abusing others" is a statement that is also circulating among them all. This girl happens to be friends with the family members of the the Pedophile. They lied on the witness stand and tried to convince the jury that we knew our daughter was getting molested by him. The only ones who knew he was a pedophile were the people she now associates with, and hid his perversion. She is close to the elders who lied on the stand regarding thier investigation of the Pedophile and keeping his secret through ecclesiastical privlege. Her comment "I am not sure what the issures are why the Pandelos have become inactive". Is she for real?????? She has had years to sit down with the Pandelo family as a friend and be a true friend, something Jehovah's Witnesses are really incapable of. She could have been a friend and find out what the real issues were following the wedding she attended a year and a half ago. The issue is not that he faced so called legal consequenses, but the issue is that he is a rapist, hiding behind people like her and the pedophile's incestuous family of elders who themselves are married to and fathers of the pedophiles victims, but want to keep his secret from the rest of the congregation, by attacking us for speaking out. Obie, tell your friend who wants to be a "Star" that she is free to come to the side of her friend, our daughter, and be a real friend. She doesn't have to wait for Dateline since she "is so interested to hear our story". The real issue of our being inactive is that the religious community we loved and trusted, perpetuated the Pedophile's lies by giving the implied permission to deny and blame the victims who spoke out. The religious community we so loved and trusted allowed his co-dependant family members who wanted to protect his secret from the congregation buy using their positions of elder authority to threaten us and other victims if we spoke out. The trial allowed us to tell our stories and we depended on our spiritual "sheperheds" to testify truthfully. They refused to do that because Lawyers from the Legal Dept. directed them to withhold information that would have given the jury information showing thier part in knowing of molesting children in the congregation. Tell this girl that since she already has our phone number and address, she is free to call or come and visit anytime, she does not have to wait for Dateline.
-
27
To my friends, some reflections...........
by JPandelo ini have had a week to reflect on my life and was thinking about what i have seen, what i am going through, and where i am going.
i know many of you here experience unbelievable pain, suffering, anger, depression, and disbelief.
i have lived with these myself.
-
-
ARoarer
Yes, Justin, I agree with you regarding the Watchtower. We chose to walk away after years in the Organization, and years of watching the Watchtower slowly try to suck the life out of our family. We came to a point, at least I did initially, where it felt if I stayed they would surely kill me. They were surely killing my husband. After walking away, yes, it truly was difficult, as I took much pressure from close friends and even you yourself, my son. But I felt those feelings you express now. I needed to live my life and enjoy my family, and also continue to be there to support those broken in spirit by the WAtchtower. At my age I feel the years I have ahead of me I can happily say I and my huband have broken the cycle of sexual abuse that persisted because of Clement Pandelo and his family of elders and other relatives who hid and covered for him. We broke the cycle and came forward to tell what he has done and what the Watchtowr did to protect him. We broke the cycle of sexual and spiritual abuse in our family. In doing that I have found joy in seeing my children make that break in the cycle continue into the lives of their future children. Although our family has endured much pain, we have also grown in inner strength. I have also gained wonderful new friendships in my community and through the newly discovered interests we now enjoy in our lives. I also feel that along with the delights of discovering new interests outside the Watchtower, new strengths, and abilities, we have also derived deep satisfaction in being in the position to help countless victims have the courage to do what they feared doing all the years of abuse. Good things can always grow out of tragedy, and exposing the scourge of sexual abuse in the Organization that blatantly told us "you are a unique case and we are learning so much about the issue of child abuse." Little did we know they had been hiding it for decades before. If our experience can help a little bit that I can say our life made a differnce. My husband and I made some kind of a difference by speaking out and fighting for what was right. And that is all anyone can do. Be there for our fellow man, for greater love has no man than to give there life in behalf of others. Watchtower may think they can "kill" our family, but only in their own twisted belief. They can never kill our spirit, and the joy we recieve helping those who are broken. I look forward also to many years of sharing new joys with my family without Watchtower legalistic rules and oppression.
-
9
Local Reaction to Dateline (NJ)
by obiefernandez inhere are some very interesting comments made to me by an active jw friend in north nj:.
i just went to the website that you sent in your e-mail about the pandelos!
wow!
-
-
ARoarer
The person that made the comment that the trial was open to everybody is not accurate in thier comments. The trial went on from November 29th to December 23, 1999. It was a long and extremely painful and traumatic experience to me my daughter and all the victims involved in testifying. First of all the trial was not open to those in congregaitons and the Society's direction. Elders who wanted very much to attend from a congregation that the pedophile once attended, were told not to be involved. None of our closest friends attended for this reason. The only witnesses who attended were the victims and thier families and on or two friends of thiers. Jim Pelllechia also attended but was careful not to be seen with the victims. He stood in the back, most likely thier at the direction of Headquarters, ever though victims were from his own congregaton. The Pedphiles' defense attorney had a field day concocting stories to seed the mind of the jury in an effort to take the suspicion away from the pedophile and his wife and heap it on the victims. The wife of the pedophile actually called each victim a liar. The ones who lied in that courtroom were elders and the pedophile, his supportive wife the defense attorney for the pedophile, the insurance attorney for the pedophile's wife and Headquarters who had people planted there in the courtroom.
Barbara Pandelo -
9
Local Reaction to Dateline (NJ)
by obiefernandez inhere are some very interesting comments made to me by an active jw friend in north nj:.
i just went to the website that you sent in your e-mail about the pandelos!
wow!
-
-
ARoarer
This is one of the lies that an one elder, a family member who's own daughter was molested, testified to on the stand, under the coaching of and insurance lawyer defending the wife of the pedophile, who by the way, knew what was going on, and also the pedophiles' defense attorney, who not only coached the elders, but also seated his own son next to the pedophile in the courtroom to stare down the victims testifying and stick his tounque in and out at them in an obscene way. Everything that was said and done against the victims testifying in that courtroom was to intimidate and humiliate. The elders played an active part in this. The court transcripts are proof of the lies and coverup.
Barbara Pandelo -
53
Update on my Mom - please read
by MrMoe inwell, mom is now on morphine, so she has a few days at best.
her organs are now faling, heart and lungs are the worst off.
went in the hospital today, laid there next to her for hours.
-
-
ARoarer
Dearset Moe
I just got home and it is late but I wanted to check in again and let you know you and your mom are in my thoughts and prayers.
Love, Barb -
53
Update on my Mom - please read
by MrMoe inwell, mom is now on morphine, so she has a few days at best.
her organs are now faling, heart and lungs are the worst off.
went in the hospital today, laid there next to her for hours.
-
-
ARoarer
Moe,
I haven't been keeping up too much with all the posts but I felt drawn to yours. When I read it I felt a deep deep ache inside for you because the scene and words you describe at you mother's side is so very identical to my experience when my mom died. Watching you mother dying reduces you to feeling just like a little girl all over again. Looking in my mothers face, I too saw and smelled death. Please know, Moe, my heart is with you. It is a terrible thing to lose a mother.
Love, Barbara Pandelo -
18
Ozzie's Weekend Poll #5
by ozziepost inyes, it's that time again!
time to put your feet up, relax with something nice to drink, and muse over dubdom for a couple of minutes.. last weekend we asked: "what did you like most about the meetings?
" so, to be fair to objectivity, we should ask for the 'other side'.
-
-
ARoarer
Things I hated about the meetings
Elderettes counceling from thier seats
Written Review
Super Theocratic sister and brother so and so taking thier 3 month old baby in the bathroom to "punish" for crying
The Tuesday Night Sales Pitch for "drawing the householder out"
Brother monotone giving a public talk
THE LIBRARY
-
46
My Experience Today with My Brother
by Reborn2002 inwell, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?
i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.
he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.
-
-
ARoarer
(((((((Reborn)))))))
You showed yourself to be the better Christian.
Barb
-
29
MAY 10 BROOKLYN EAGLE NEWS/WATCHTOWER SEX ABUSE
by ARoarer ini went to brooklyn hts.
today to pick my son up from college at the new york institute of technology, which is right in the heart of bethel.
he brought home a news paper with the headlines entitled:.
-
-
ARoarer
I e-mailed the editor. I don't have a scanner. The Brooklyn Eagle has done a lot of research on Russell.