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  My Mom Was Visited At The Door...

  by exjdub in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  but it wasn't by jw's.

  it was by her new neighbors welcoming her to the neighborhood.

  my mom, who has been inactive for about 5 years after being in the org for 40+ years, recently moved to arizona.

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  I'm so gald you have your mom!

  Emma,

  I am too. The interesting thing is that our relationship has grown and is far better out of the Org than it ever was in. Some will probably think that this is rhetoric, but it's not. My sister and her elder husband both rejected my mother while she was still a Pioneer and neither one of those two kooks speak to my father, who has never been a Witness and is a very kind man.

  I think this been the case alot with me.

  I'm glad Stefanie and I think that this is the case with most everyone on the board. What a novel idea isn't it? People are actually nice even though they aren't JW's.

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  Insomnia

  by Uzzah in

  1. jw
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  well here i am at 36 hours and counting.

  i can't sleep.

  thus the reason for my proliferation of posts lately.. anyone with any cure alls, home remedy spells?

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  Acupuncture has not failed me yet. Sometimes it takes a few treatments before the root problem is addressed. Many times it is stress related, sometimes stress that we are not even aware that we are carrying. If it is stress, relief generally comes quickly. If there are underlying physical problems it can take some time...but it works.

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  Do you still get embarrassed by it?

  by Mr Ben in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the other night in the pub a guy pipes up, "hey, how you doing mate?

  then proceeds to inform everyone that i used to try and convert him to jwism about 8 years ago.

  i say, "how you doing dave?"...

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  If it is someone that I am forming a friendship with I blow my own cover when the subject arises about religion and upbringing. If my cover is blown by someone else I laugh and tell them it feels great to be out of a cult. If you make fun of yourself it generally takes the sting out of the embarassment...especially if you have a pint in your hand.

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  My Mom Was Visited At The Door...

  by exjdub in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  but it wasn't by jw's.

  it was by her new neighbors welcoming her to the neighborhood.

  my mom, who has been inactive for about 5 years after being in the org for 40+ years, recently moved to arizona.

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  But it wasn't by JW's. It was by her new neighbors welcoming her to the neighborhood. My Mom, who has been inactive for about 5 years after being in the Org for 40+ years, recently moved to Arizona. She called to tell me about the welcome and how good it made her feel. I joked about it and told her that those damn worldly people keep disappointing every time...if only we could return to the love of the WBTS. She laughed and agreed (tongue firmly in cheek). That has been a big step for my Mom because she wrestled with guilt for a while after leaving (like most of us). What helps is that she has had many warm experiences with "worldly people" in her travels since leaving the Org, which is good, because it keeps her from returning to the vomit of the JW's. Although she has cut loose, she still wonders if she has done the right thing, even though she knows in her heart that she has. Indoctrination is tough to get out of the system.

  Uzzah said in another thread:

  Contrary to what the Society would have us believe the world is full of decent and good people.

  Very true Uzzah, very true.

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  "Cheer up the Gals" day !!!

  by LittleToe in

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  ok, after much deliberation i've decided to call a spontaneous "cheer up the gals" day.. we know we love 'em, but how often do we tell them that?.

  so to all the gals out there - we love ya, k?.

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  My server was down for a good part of the day yesterday, so I am late to the party:

  (((ApostaGals))) where would we be without you? Probably still in a Bush vs. Kerry thread!

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  Do you still get embarrassed by it?

  by Mr Ben in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the other night in the pub a guy pipes up, "hey, how you doing mate?

  then proceeds to inform everyone that i used to try and convert him to jwism about 8 years ago.

  i say, "how you doing dave?"...

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  Mr. Ben,

  Buy him a pint and ask him to please stop blowing your cover. Will that work, or is it beyond that?? Is he kidding with you (not that calling someone out in front of everyone is appropriate) or is it bullying?

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  I been shunned by a Baptist,

  by jst2laws in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just moments ago i was on the back deck looking at the stars and a renter next door came out to do the same.

  i said hello and we talked about where we were from and where we are at, spiritually.

  after a few clues the neighbor asked if i had accepted jesus as my personal savior.

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  She said: "You are wrong. You cannot connect to God except through 'our Lord Jesus Christ. "No one approaches the God except thought me". It told her I am glad she is able to connect to God through Jesus. I am happy for anyone who connects with God, through what ever means. But I know I connected with God as a Baptist, I connected as a Jehovah's Witness, and I connect now as a person with NO religious affiliation.

  Jst2laws,

  Your reply to this woman, after she so rudly and abruptly told you that you were "wrong", tells me so much about you. You are truly a Gentleman...a gentle man. I admire you for your ability to reply to this arrogant woman with kindness. You and Joyzabel are special people. The WTBTS's loss is our gain!

  exjdub (who has worked hard at being kinder and more gentle since leaving the Org, and has made progress, but still has a long way to go to be at your level)
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  Disturbing phone call yesterday....

  by codeblue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i would have posted this yesterday but for some reason it was unavailable.. i called one of my jw sisters, my turn to call.. a couple of months ago we all got together...hadn't seen any of them in 5 years.. well...she met my hubby and she said what he said was bothering her...i said: oh, i wasn't in the conversation what was it that bothered her....(my first mistake) seems like he brought up the un letter and something about what the real good news is.. she then started her hitler/nazi questions saying she is concerned about my spirituality....... i told her i have a relationship with jehovah and that is what matters...didn't stop her...i also told her i am a big girl and have taken care of my spirituality since i married the first time and left home.. i got off the subject by calling after my dog...and i was shaking the whole afternoon.. ya all know i am fading....geez...i wasn't prepared for this conversation...i am debating on telling her if she wants to continue a relationship with me then she needs to respect my spirituality and not question it...according to romans 14 where it says: each one has an accounting before god.

  while i was married to husband #1 she never wanted to hear anything negative...so i had no support during that time and during my divorce as well.. she mentions she is concerned about my spirituality cause i don't talk about meetings or field service.

  i would like to reinforce the fact that she doesn't like negative conversations, remind her of my marriage and divorce and after my divorce when i wanted to have an ear to listen to me, but she didn't...so since she set the rules of no negative comments that is why i chose not to talk about meetings or field service because they are negative>.

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  Sometimes the problem is not the JW/not JW thing but family issues that have never been resolved just ignored in families.

  I agree with Blondie. I think that the JW thing masks alot of family dysfunction. I guess mask isn't the right word...postpones is probably a better word. A toxic family member will use the veil of the Org to stab you and to satisfy a deeper agenda that perhaps has been in the undercurrent all along. At least that was my experience. My only sibling, a Sister, is now dead to me because of the cruelty inflicted through the veil of the Org. But it never was really about the Org, only a convenient excuse to disembowel me (she also was very worried about my "spirituality".)

  Obviously, only you know the real situation, but I completely understand your frustration. What is quite interesting to me is that your Sister used an identical tactic as my Sister. You mentioned that, even though your Sister was not very helpful through some difficult times, she threw in your face how supportive she had been to you. That is exactly what my situation was (though not with a divorce). My Sister was the very opposite of supportive during my excrutiatingly difficult time, but amazingly, in her mind, she had been completely supportive and I "was biting the hand that was feeding me" by questioning her lack of support! No win situation for sure.

  Finally...there is nothing like family to make you feel worthless. They know how to gut punch you, when they want to, quite effectively. It probably will never mean as much coming from people on the internet, but you are valuable, and I really enjoy your thoughts and posts and hope you do not take comments from a toxic Sister to heart, as hard as that may be. Warmest regards (((CB.)))

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  Hi, I'm new to the site, and kind of don't understand...

  by my-journey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just curious as to the aim of this website?

  i thought it was a discussion board for those interested in/ for jehovah's witnesses, but it seems like you're all former jehovah's witnesses?

  so is this site just to bash jehovah's witnesses?

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  No one knows the truth. The minute anyone starts claiming they know the truth, keep one eye on your wallet and another on the door, as they want something. If they use a big T they are even more untrustworthy.

  Abaddon,

  What you have so eloquently put has been my philosophy since I left Dubbieland. If everyone followed your statement, especially aspiring Dubs, there would be a lot less pain in the world.

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  "This Good News of the Kingdom" is NOT Jesus' Gospel

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts and dubs like to brag that, unlike all other religions, they are the only people preaching the truth about "this good news of the kingdom" on earth.

  they claim that their most important purpose in life and as dubs is to preach that good news.. .

  they use their favorite verses in matthew 24:14 and revelation 21:3,4 to describe what that "good news of the kingdom" means.

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  Farkel,

  Thanks for the great reasoning points. I have started a seperate folder of reasoning points that I may need to use and I have saved this gem for future use.

  exjdub