Posts by Fleur

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how has your life changed in the last 10 years

by dh in

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ten years is a long time, what changes has your life undergone in the last 10 years?

Fleur

what hasn't changed? i've lost children to miscarriage, finally become a mother, divorced, fell in REAL love for the first time, remarried, moved, lost my whole family because i left the org. same time as i got out of the bad marriage. my health has gone from bad to worse. i've been suicidally depressed and on top of the world and everywhere inbetween on the 'ride' as a friend calls it.

everything's different now, especially me. and i have never felt more peace, or happiness or love, in my life than i do now. those things are what make the rest of the crap worth dealing with.

i hope this post doesn't get deleted it's driving me mad that stuff keeps disappearing.

fleur

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Powerful Lines from Powerful Movies

by dh in

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la amistad

cinque speaking of his ancestors.

"i will call into the past from back to the beginning of time and beg them to come and help me at the judgment.

Fleur

ahhh it cut off my post: take 2:

for some reason this message board doesn't like jack sparrow. pity! i can't get the text to show.

maybe tomorrow it'll like him, and me better...

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trying this once more...

Jack sparrow:

Then that's not much incentive for me to fight fair, then, is it?

Now, as long as you?re just hanging there, pay attention. The only rules that really matter are these ? what a man can do and what a man can?t do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can?t. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you?ll have to square with that someday.

Now, me, for example, I can let you drown but I can?t bring this ship into

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Powerful Lines from Powerful Movies

by dh in

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friends

la amistad

cinque speaking of his ancestors.

"i will call into the past from back to the beginning of time and beg them to come and help me at the judgment.

Fleur

"what does god need with a starship?" (captain kirk, star trek 5, a horribly bad movie but a good theory. what does god need with anything we have, it he/she/it does exist? it certainly shouldn't need cash donations.)

" KEATING
No Mr. Overstreet, it wasn't just "guys",
we weren't a Greek organization, we were
romantics. We didn't just read poetry,
we let it drip from our tongues like honey.
Spirits soared, women swooned, and gods
were created, gentlemen, not a bad way to
spend an evening eh? Thank you Mr. Perry
for this trip down amnesia lane. Burn that,
especially my picture."

Dead Poets society

and a personal favorite of mine: from pirates of the carribean;

" Will : You didn?t beat me. you ignored the rules of engagement. In a fair fight, I?d killed you.

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Harsh reality of disfellowshipping

by lovinlife in

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hi everybody, it has been forever since i have been here!

i have missed you.

i had some harsh reality of disfellowshipping thrown in my face yesterday that made me realize how much i have missed being here with all you lovely people.

Fleur

i'm so sorry this is happening to you.

a few years ago when my dad was in critical condition in icu, my jw cousins walked into his room and past me as i stood at his bedside, barely even glancing in my direction. soon as i left to go to the ladiesroom, they ran up to my 'worldly' husband to introduce themselves. he was disgusted with them and if they ever had any chance of convincing him the 'truth' was loving and good, that blew it right there.

i wish i could fix it for you, all i can tell you is that you're not alone, and offer an understanding hug.

((((((hugs)))))))

fleur

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supposing you wanted to start your own community project, what would you do

by Celtic in

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just supposing you wanted to start your own community project or to do something, anything for other people, and supposing you had a few hours spare each week and some funding to get a project off the ground, what would you ideally like to do?

would it be that you might like to start an ex witness healing group or similar, or perhaps some theatre production, screen writing etc, or perhaps a recycling project or perhaps helping out elderly individuals in your home area?.

if you could use your imagination, what would you like to do?

Fleur

i've organized several donations drives for children's hospitals in the past 2+ years, and found it more rewarding than i can explain. if you want more info celtic you can pm me for details.

i hate the jw attitude toward charities, why contribute to anything but the society when jehovah will fix it all? *gag* that doesn't do any good in the meantime (if it ever was going to happen...not!) does it?

hugs

fleur

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Is there anything worse than.........

by ozziepost in

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.....crumbs in your bed??!!!!

!

Fleur

aww, sassy. i can totally relate. it's been six years since my divorce and sometimes i still have nightmares. but they're less and less frequent now...

(((((((((hugs)))))))))))

fleur

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Can someone help me?

by Morgan in

i asked a question to farkel the other day.

he had posted (on a different thread) the following:.

quote: this same "god" gave instuctions on how to hold the legs of babies so his "chosen people" could bash the brains of those little babies against the walls and spat them all over the place.

Fleur

ugh. and i'm supposed to be reading this lovely book full of happy promises for the future to my child?

hell no.

so glad to be free...

fleur

p.s. "baby whacking, kitty killing myth..." i love it when people call things what they really are!!! That was great Overbeer!

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Bring back an old post that is important to you.....

by ApagaLaLuz in

since many of us have been coming to this board for a while and have gotten to know each other, some may have forgotten about our jw stories of how we all got here.

why dont we all pick one or two important posts from our past, that either we wrote as our introduction, or that someone else wrote that helped you.

it would be great to be refreshed of all your stories.. provide the link to it below:.

Fleur

you want old posts eh? man. i have so many. will have to do some digging and get back to you, i hope others will post their links/stories here too for the benefit of newer folks.

great thread!

fleur

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So what exactly IS an apostate?

by somebodylovesme in

i was under the impression that an apostate was anyone who left the witnesses, was df'ed/da'ed, or was just actively opposed to them.

but i was reading in my hubby's old "reasoning book" that an apostate is one who professes to believe in christ (but not the jws), claims to serve god (but is not a jw), tries to pull away current jws or attack them.

so, by that definition, would someone who fades away and professes no religion still be considered an apostate if he or she didn't try to take anyone with them and did not attack the religion?.

Fleur

"...renegade"

you know, i like that better than apostate. it's almost as good as "scoundrel"...

hey, i'd rather be called just about anything than a "good upstanding JW!"

and you're so right, the big A word is just like any other slur. Something people throw at you when they run into a brick wall with their arguement.

~fleur

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An Esmerelda by any other name would still be just as screwed up.

by Fleur in

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i've lost old hotmail accounts and the old account info that went with them.

but it is me, es, essie, esmerel/alda, in addition to anything else obscene i may be known by in these parts.. i just pounded this out in pure frustration.

i'm probably going to get heckled for posting it but what the hell, there isn't anywhere else i can go where people will get this, and i can't keep it inside, it has got to go somewhere before my brain explodes.. so here it is.why did i go to that restaurant today?

Fleur

(((((((((((zazu, jankyn)))))))) wow, it's wonderful to hear from you both. I have missed you and thought about you so often.

Jankyn, you hit the nail on the head for me ...i don't want to do the same thing that they do, i want to be kinder than that. this is why i have always told my relatives that my door is always open to them, if they choose to walk through it. it is like dealing with a chronic illness...these are all great illustrations and you're all helping me to put this all in perspective.

didn't fall asleep till after 330 this morning, but when i slept, it was soundly.

you speak of my having compassion...that is so kind of you. i left here because the people who didn't seem to care what they said or who they hurt got to me, i let them get to me. but i'm getting older, and learning more, and i am not the same terrified girl who came to the boards 4 (4!!!) years ago, so i suppose the nickname change is a good thing, anyway isn't it?

i'm very different now, but more 'me' than i have ever been and that is what i am not willing to give up to go back just to make peace with my family. i can't give up me.

i like to think i'm a teeny bit wiser from learning from all of you in the past few years. the hardest thing has been, and still is, showing compassion of any kind to myself. that is a lesson that i hope to learn this year.

if anything i say to anyone here can help them, than that is reason enough to hang around, even if only on the periphery...and i am determined this time not to let anyone make me so upset that i have to retreat entirely into myself. that ain't healthy lol. i can't 'live' in the exjw world, but the outskirts of town are a great place to retreat when your soul needs to be fed.

hugs and love to all,

fleur