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  Can we understand the message of the Bible

  by Bill Parker in

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  reply to question- can we understand the message of the bible?.

  joel bear made the following comment to me: as one of jehovahs witnesses who bears his name, why not give a well thought out answer to the question.. .

  the questions as far as i can determine are this: why is the bible so ambiguous that so many interpretations are possible?

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  I don't know what quote you're referencing, Billy, but I will venture a serious answer since you posted seriously.

  I assume the 'wise and clever' refer to those who are shrewd. My response is, if it can be proved, then it can be loved.

  You said those who are "wise and clever' are likely to be egotistical("Those that feel that because of their knowledge they are superior to everyone else"). I am neither wise nor clever, nor knowledgeable. I am a man in search of answers. Not pre-made answers from a publication, but from a search of my heart and mind.

  "The only ones who will not understand the message are those ones who are not spiritually minded."-Well, I know you'll differ with me on this, but the WTBTS has frequently misunderstood the message of the bible, which is summed up in the two commandments Jesus gave us. When I was a witness, I noticed a concern more for the beaurocracy of it all, rather than a spirit of brotherhood and Godly love.

  I could post more, but I'm tired.

  I understand your post, but most certainly do not agree with it.

  You are insinuating that doubt is synonymous with evil. It is not. You are saying that a non-spiritual man cannot discern the bible.

  People can. The words are universally understood. We can pine after faith, but words stay. The problem of facts holding up the words is my cause of doubt.

  As for the 'bible scholars who are lying in Satan's power', then sir, why does the WTBTS use the ones who support the WTBTS theories in their publications, and denounce the whole of academic bible research as 'unspiritual' when they don't agree?

  Sorry, Billy, I'm not feeling sad here. My decisions weren't made because I smoked, or did drugs, or fornicated. I left-

  It was a question of people.

  ashi
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  My boyfriend is a JW

  by little_red_birdie in

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  i am just a young teenager, and my first ever boyfriend is a jw!!

  at that time i didn't even know what a jw was, no one at school ever really mentioned anything.

  i had no idea what i was getting into.

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  Well,

  If he's willing to take some heat for you, dust yourself off, flip his parents and the 'elders' the bird, and enjoy your time together with him.

  ashi
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  Pioneer junk food

  by joelbear in

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  lisa's mention of junk food harkened me back to memories of sitting underneath the shade of a big oak tree outside the suwannee swiftee convenience store on north forrest street munching on:.

  zingers, the raspberry kind with the coconut on them.. so fess up, what was yall's favorite pioneer junk food?.

  joel

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  Slurpeeeeeeeeesss!!!!!
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  the intellectual laziness in jh, ks & follo...

  by elke in

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  the words: intellectual laziness.

  recognize this trait?

  ahhh,many who apostasies from the one truth, shall we say ,adopts this trait-and transforms into epitomies of intellectual laziness...they construct the premise there is no true god to mislead others...they proceed to construct arguments to support these prefabricated conclusions with the building blocks of false logic...they convince intellectually lazy individuals the odds of a creators existence are remote...a lie recognizable to any form of honest intelligence.. craig rusbult, ph.d. explains why god refuses to provide irrefutable proof in his existence on the web page http://www.asa3.org/asa/education/views/proof.htm - "although it isn't stated directly in the bible, god seems to prefer a balance of evidence: there is enough reason to believe if we want to believe, but not enough to intellectually force belief against our will.

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  "You didn't understand NOTHING...."

  nice grammar, schmuck.

  Please educate yourself.

  yoyoyo,

  ashi
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  Are you stable? (Mentally, that is)

  by ashitaka in

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  ok.....any response will do, but if you're going to post a funny one, please also type your real thoughts along with it.. as for me, i'm pretty wild, but stable.

  i never mention or show my fears; especially if my wife is around.

  i can't bear to make her nervous.. ashi

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  Ranch,

  thank you very much. trust me, it wasn't too long. I'll save that one. Gracias.

  ashi
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  You guys are too suspicious

  by Mulan in

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  i posted this on the thread from little_red_birdie, but thought perhaps it deserved it's own thread.. to some of the posters on this thread:.

  you guys are just too suspicious.

  some teens are so grown up, and have good vocabularies, because their parents talk to them, and they learn how to speak.

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  Mulan,

  just as a defense, my post was just, "oh no, not again." I apologized later on.

  But, it sucks to be duped into caring about a subject, and then finding out someone's been pulling your chain.

  ashi
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  My boyfriend is a JW

  by little_red_birdie in

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  i am just a young teenager, and my first ever boyfriend is a jw!!

  at that time i didn't even know what a jw was, no one at school ever really mentioned anything.

  i had no idea what i was getting into.

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  YOYOMA-if you are blessed with a good congregation, good for you.

  All of the JW's I ever knew were like that.

  ashi
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  the intellectual laziness in jh, ks & follo...

  by elke in

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  the words: intellectual laziness.

  recognize this trait?

  ahhh,many who apostasies from the one truth, shall we say ,adopts this trait-and transforms into epitomies of intellectual laziness...they construct the premise there is no true god to mislead others...they proceed to construct arguments to support these prefabricated conclusions with the building blocks of false logic...they convince intellectually lazy individuals the odds of a creators existence are remote...a lie recognizable to any form of honest intelligence.. craig rusbult, ph.d. explains why god refuses to provide irrefutable proof in his existence on the web page http://www.asa3.org/asa/education/views/proof.htm - "although it isn't stated directly in the bible, god seems to prefer a balance of evidence: there is enough reason to believe if we want to believe, but not enough to intellectually force belief against our will.

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  Tina!!!! You saucy professor you!!!!

  Hey abaddon, i agree. FUNNY STATEMENT: it's not knowledge you need, just faith(like you said, 'theists' *sigh*)........hahaha.....which means, that you need no physical or historical evidence for God to exist. Revisionist History, I think it is called. Earthquakes could happen and destroy a city, and people could attribute it to their God. Floods, hell that was God too. Death. Must be God.

  I think humanity can't stand questions and wants an answer, no matter what it is. Even if the answer is more elusive than the air.

  ashi
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

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  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  OKOKOKOKOKOKOK

  we are beating this to death.

  I think it's safe to assume that 'evil' is a bad word to use in a thread like this.

  That not all JW's are 'evil'.

  'Evil's' definition is according to the individual.-(Fark's post)

  That 'evil' is everywhere.

  In conclusion, that we just have to live and let live, no matter who the people are, no matter what they do. Just pay attention to ourselves and what we do as individuals. We can't condemn people for the wrongs we perceive, even if people agree with us. The last ten posts were excellent and sum up everything well.

  ashi

  p.s.-we could probably barter philosophies forever and still not have an 'answer'.
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  How Women are treated in the WTS - from the Awake!

  by hawkaw in

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  below is a scanned article from the august 22, 1967 awake!

  magazine that deals with women and why they don't hold positions of authority in the wachtower.

  metatron brought this subject up a few months ago and someone was nice enough to give me the actual article.

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  Lordy,

  What tripe. Thanks for the articles. You should be our statistician, Hawk....

  ashi