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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

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  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  Athanasius

  Manny’s scheme of frightening dissatisfied JWs so that they stay in the Borg, could backfire. As in any totalitarian society, eventually the dissidents will organize underground and form a resistance movement. Look what is happening in the around the world. The Borg is not immune.

  Doubting JWs locked in a spiritual prison are not an asset to the Watchtower Corporation and will be a constant problem for the jailers. Since anyone can write in hours on a timesheet, active JWs who know the “truth about the ‘truth,’” may be more numerous than we realize.
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  Watchtower — Not One Female!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. friends

  watchtower not one female!.

  today i uploaded a new article to my blog taking a fresh look at a now 40-year-old watchtower illustration of what it terms the modern-day theocratic organization of jehovah's christian witnesses.

  something is missing in the picture.

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  Athanasius

  The Watchtower GB has never bothered to read Romans 16 which mentions women in leadership positions in the ancient church. In fact one woman, Junia, was an apostle (Romans 16:7, Revised English Bible).
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  Credit Card Donation terminals are currently being installed in JWs Assembly Halls...

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  i received the following email from a former jw that i thought to share.

  note: i retyped the boe letter that was sent from the christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses to all congregations in the us.

  the letter is authentic.

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  Athanasius

  What will they think up next? Perhaps the Governing Body will start selling indulgences.
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  Scans of Consolation, Dec 25, 1940, favorable blood transfusion story

  by Alleymom in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have seen scans of the december 25, 1940 consolation story before, but today i came across a site where the complete issue can be downloaded: http://www.archive.org/details/1938-1940consolation.

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  Athanasius

  One reason for the favorable article in the December 1940 Consolation regarding blood transfusions may have to due with Judge Rutherford's health at the time. He was suffering from cancer and had undergone several operations. Whether Rutherford required a blood transfusion during surgery is not mentioned in Watchtower publications.

  But the fact that Rutherford permitted an article mentioning the benefits of blood transfusions indicates that he was not opposed to this medical procedure. Rutherford also exercised some control over Freddie Franz and his kookie ideas. However, once Rutherford joined Chuck Russell beyond the vale, Freddie was free to push his screwball opinions on the JWs, one of which was no blood transfusions for the faithful.
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  How Did You Get Rid of Your Bound Volumes?

  by Eiben Scrood in

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  2. friends

  my town will no longer collect old books like that as trash and they're pretty hard to burn.

  my solution has been to include one in every bag of used cat litter when i clean the cat boxes.

  i've gotten rid of around 30 that way and i'm about halfway there.

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  Athanasius

  I sold my set of bound volumes to a JW for $150. He must have found them helpful as he made elder the following year.

  Why burn the bound volumes when you can sell them and recoup some of your original investment.
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  Nathan Knorr in High School

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  nathan knorr in high school.

  today i uploaded a short article onto my blog showing nathan knorr in his high school days.

  since nothing associated with watchtower would be complete with some prophecy, my article contains the 1923 high school prophecy for knorrie.

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  Athanasius

  Interesting find, Marvin. Hopefully you will dig up more information about this Watchtower mogul.

  I sent you a PM that you may also find interesting.
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  Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  election year is approaching.

  are we ready for the political campaigns?

  for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

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  Probably not. My dad always said that we have the best politicians money can buy.
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  JW's who remain in the organisation but try to reform it - pissing against the wind

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  i came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of jw doctrine.. http://jwreform.org/index.html.

  who do these people think they are?

  do they really believe that the wts will sit up and take notice of their objections?

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  The JW GB may reform the Organization if there is pressure from the outside. If the governments threaten to confiscate Watchtower property and tax the hell out of Watchtower income because JWs are denied basic human rights, the GB would suddenly get New Light. If the governmental agencies enforce their demands, the materialistic GB will reform the JW Organization to protect their assets.

  But to date all JW reform movements that worked from the inside have failed.

  Regarding governmental interference in Watchtower politics, what if the U.S. Government were to arrest the GB and all top Watchtower officials, does the Borg have a contingency plan? Do they have an order of succession for the GB membership during emergencies?
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  Samuel Herd a Murderer?

  by Damn The Watchtower in

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  2. friends

  hello folks,.

  i feel like a fish who has been struggling for oxygen so long he's almost dead.

  time to grow some legs and get the hell out of hell.

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  Athanasius

  Welcome, DTW.

  Interesting that you mention Sam Herd as a possible progressive GB member. Being the only Afro-American member, brother Herd may have more power on the GB than he realizes. If he took a strong stand for reforming the blood doctrine, I doubt the reactionary lilly white GB members could remove him as easily as they did Ray Franz without creating bad publicity for the Watchtower inside and outside the Organization.
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  what religion are you now?

  by deservingone26 in

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  2. friends

  its been a while since ive been on how is everyone doing?

  but just curious after you left jehovahs witnesses did you look into other religions?

  or are any of you currently involved in any other religions now?.

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  Athanasius

  I attended Unitarian services for a while after I left the JWs. The sermons were informative, more like a college lecture. The people were friendly and interesting to talk to. But I found Episcopal services did more for my spirituality so in 1991 I was received into the Episcopal Church.

  The nice thing about being out of the JW religion is that one is free to make their own choice regarding religion or no religion.