The reason they don't destroy the records after reinstatement or after the death of a DFd person is should the person be resurrected after Armagedon the elders can check the records and restrict their privileges in the congregation. For example if a DFd brother is resurrected they wouldn't want to use him as a Watchtower reader, or to represent the congregation in prayer. Never mind that God saw fit to forgive the person by resurrecting him.
Athanasius
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"Do not destroy" your file after reinstatement ...
by compound complex inkarl adams, writing department overseer, wrote a letter to president knorr (november 18, 1971), questioning the keeping of voluminous files containing embarrassing information on disfellowshipped persons.
even after individuals were reinstated, their files were retained:.
"at the present time the names of even those reinstated are kept in the file, and bulky records are kept of their cases, labeled 'do no destroy.
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How Many Here Have Voted Since You've Left The Religion?
by minimus ini know a few that have recently registered.
what about choo?
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Athanasius
I've voted in every election since 1988.
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What Is Your Present Status In The Organization?
by minimus inare you disfellowshipped?
disassociated?
a fader?
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Athanasius
Back in 1989 a Judicial Committee determined that I had DAd because I hadn't attended meetings in years. They made the determination not me because I never sent them a letter or verbally expressed a desire to disassociate. Not that it mattered as I had already joined another church.
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What would you say the Golden Age of the Watchtower Society was?
by truthseeker inmy money is on the 70s even though i was too young to experience it, but from what others had said here it was a time when you could be proud to be a dub and have fun.
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Athanasius
The 1970s was Watchtower Vatican II. Certainly a period of enlightenment in JW history. Had these reforms been allowed to continue the Watchtower would have in time become a gentler, kinder, religion.
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Has Anybody Here Converted to Judaism?
by Robdar ini've studied many religions since i left the jws.
i've flirted with a few and have actually thought about joining, but in the end i didn't because it didn't feel right--it didn't resonate with me.
in 2001, the year i discovered this forum, i started reading judaism 101 and really enjoyed it.
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Athanasius
Hi Robyn, Back in 1989 I got engaged to a Jewish woman. She was Conservative so we kept Kosher, observed the Sabbath, and I took the Jewish Living classes that were conducted by her Rabbi. I didn't convert though. Being Episcopalian I was used to an individual relationship with God and more freedoms of choice that Conservative Judaism didn't allow. Judaism is more of a community faith. Also I wasn't enthusiastic about ritual circumcision, which would have been necessary for me to complete the conversion process. Perhaps if my fiancee had been Reform things would have been different. Actually we attended the Reform temple a few times, which I liked but she didn't. In Reform you only have to keep Kosher during High Holy Days and circumcision isn't required. My slowness in converting affected our relationship and we eventually separated. Though Judaism isn't for me this doesn't mean that things won't work out for you. I have several friends who converted and are very happy. Regarding the Mikvah this ritual is done in the nude. However, it is a private affair and you are in the pool by yourself, no one else is in the room. It is between you and God.
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Did you intentionaly make your talks shorter so the meeting would end quick
by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH ini think the school works differently now, but when i was a kid, a #2 talk was 5 minutes and i would give it in about 3 minutes...why did the meeting still end at 9:15!
ps.........do you remember when those tms meeting were 2 hours??????
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Athanasius
It wasn't intentional, but I rarely used all of my alloted time on a talk. In fact back in the days when we were assigned the "Hour Talk," I usually delivered it in 45 minutes. When the instruction talk was 15 minutes, I gave it in 12. Nobody complained. I also didn't care much for those brothers who would ramble on and on in their talks just because they had a few extra minutes.
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Yankee or Dixie
by changeling inhttp://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html.
my score was 76% dixie.. .
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Athanasius
57% Dixie, maybe because I am a native Californian.
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The Loyalty Question
by choosing life inhow many here have been asked the loyalty question by an elder.
i am referring to, "do you believe that jehovah is using the faithful and discreet slave class to accomplish his work?
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Athanasius
Back in 1988 an elder who was investigating my membership status in the congregation, as I hadn't attended meetings in over 3 years asked me if I believed that God was using the Faithful and Discreet Slave as his channel of communication, or something like that. He was trying to get me to DA myself so I knew that if I answered "no," he would consider that as an act of disasscociation. Instead I chose not to answer his question by saying that I was under a lot of emotional stress right now and couldn't properly give him a reply to his question. So he dropped it for the time being. However, a year later they announced to the congregation that the JC had determined that I had Disassociated myself.
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avatars and member names, who's going to keep the same?
by DaCheech inif joining other boards, will you stay same?.
how will we know who you are from this universe?.
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Athanasius
Since everyone knows me as Athanasius, guess I will continue to use that name. However, it is time for an updated portrait of myself.
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Tell Simon why we want JWD to stay... our apprecaition...
by burningbridges inok, i'll start, maybe if we can all tell simon our reason why this site means so much to us he will reconsider and leave it here.
this site has given me the courage to speak out.
i used to be ashamed of my history with the witnesses.
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Athanasius
Simon your hard work and dedication in keeping this site up and running is greatly appreciated by all of us. Please reconsider your decision to close JWD. With the recent events taking place in Watchtower land there are many new wavering JWs who are viewing the information on JWD for the first time. For them and for the many longtime posters who like to direct their JW friends and relatives to the truth about "the truth," please keep JWD up and running.