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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  It looks like Lloyd's audience has declined considerably during the last two years. However, it seems that he has retained a smaller but still loyal fan base. So I decided to take a look at which of his videos are most popular with the average Cederite.

  In the last five months Lloyd has posted two videos that primarily deal with Gay issues and have average views of 4.9K. During the same time period he did four videos on Religion in general. This appears to be more popular with the Cederites as these videos garnered 5.6K average views.

  During the last five months Lloyd has released 100 videos, the vast majority being Sushis which average 5 minutes in length. However, in the last two months, Lloyd has produced only nine videos. Eight deal with JW issues and one titled “Christianity is the Problem” is Lloyd's answer to a voice mail from a non-JW caller about Christianity in general, and has received only 7.5K views. Whereas his eight JW videos got an average of 15K views during the two month period.

  Interestingly, Lloyd's latest video, “Beards U Turn” has been up just eight days and has 38K views. However, it is almost an hour in length, so I doubt even the most devout Cederite would spend a full hour watching Lloyd pontificate on the subject of facial hair. Most likely they watch it in three 20 minute segments, which would triple the number of views.

  I'm sure there are others who have the time and the equipment to do a more accurate and scientific analysis of Lloyd's work and his audience. But it looks like your average Cederite wants videos that focus primarily on JW issues such as scandals, doctrine, and grooming.

  But as the quantity and more importantly the quality of Lloyd's videos decline, some Cederites are going to loose interest and turn to other ex-JW websites, taking their money with them.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  There is one question about Lloyd that is very interesting. Why didn't he record his JC meeting with the elders and the Branch representative? Since the Watchtower is very strict regarding the confidentiality of JC meetings, we only have Lloyd's version about what transpired. And according to him the reason for the meeting was Apostasy.

  However, in view of Lloyd's history of distorting the facts and outright lying, can one honestly accept his version as the truth? If Apostasy was discussed during the JC, perhaps it was only one of several issues that the elders had with Lloyd. So what was discussed at the JC meeting that Lloyd doesn't want his followers to know about?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Hi Ted,

  I think that you are overlooking the fact that Lloyd's really effective Videos on JWism were actually team efforts. He had Mark O'Donnell and other unpaid volunteers doing the research and organizing the content. All Lloyd did was take the credit for their work and grab any monetary rewards. So in reality the good that you credit to Lloyd was actually the work of others. Compare his pre-2022 videos with the present.

  Without the assistance of unpaid volunteers, Lloyd's recent videos are mostly a long-winded rehash of what other ex-JWs have already revealed on their channels.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Athanasius

  On February 22, 2023, Anthony Morris III was officially removed from the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. A few months later it was revealed that the Watchtower bought him a house in Lumberton, North Carolina.

  However, and correct me if I am wrong, since leaving the GB nobody has reported seeing Tony attending JW meetings or participating in field service. In fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store. The man seems to have vanished. Since the Watchtower hasn't released any new information about Tony to clarify matters, everyone is free to speculate regards what happened.

  So here is my take on the situation. Back in February there was a heated discussion during the GB meeting where the recent doctrinal, procedural, and grooming changes to the JW organization were approved. Tony refused to accept the new directives and in a rage resigned from the GB. He was so emotionally upset that he experienced a serious mental breakdown and currently resides at a Veteran's Hospital.

  It is all speculation on my part. Maybe others have a better explanation. If so please feel free to comment and let us know where you think Tony is.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Since Lloyd lies all the time, how do we know if the sex workers he employed were female?

  Perhaps that explains why his wife was unable to satisfy his sexual urges.
  
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  Talk Outline needed

  by vienne in

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  i need the talk outline connected to the handbill pictured here:.

  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2023/11/talk-outline.html.

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  Athanasius

  Back in the 1940s and 1950s the Watchtower referred to persons who were interested in JWism, but were not JWs, as "Persons of Good-Will" or "Good-Will persons."
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Unfortunately LE is really a cancer on the ex-JW movement. While there are some who claim that he helped them to get out of the JW religion, on the flip side one must also ask: How many wavering JWs has he discouraged, causing them to remain in the Watchtower?
  
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  First Day of Returning to D2D Work

  by Foolednomore in

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  this is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.

  what a waste of time!.

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  I didn't see any JWs doing Door to Door work today, but I did see a couple of JW women standing by their cart. Both women wore masks even though they were outside in the fresh air.

  However, nobody seemed to be interested in their literature. People seemed to just pass by and ignore them.
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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  The description of Babylon the Great in Revelation could also fit the conglomerate of international business corporations.
  
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  End of watchtower

  by Hellothere in

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  shouldn't gb tell members to abandon organisation?

  surely things are pointing at watchtower being part of babylon the great.

  in with way is watchtower being bless and been shown god's favour this days?

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  If this was the end of the Watchtower, Lloyd Evans would be out of a job and his main source of of income would dry up.