Posts by bavman

my father was a devout jehovah's witness, and he intended on indoctrinating me in the faith as i grew up...however, my mother took me away from him when i was 4 years old, and i haven't been able to find him since (i contacted the main hq in new york, but he couldn't be found anywhere).

i have read numerous books and articles which i've got from the watchtower store, and have read this website, www.watchtower.org and been involved in the yahoo!

bavman

God's spirit probably is directing you here.

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are young children still being

by tenrats in

spanked, beat, whatever at kingdom halls?

still in the washroom or do they now have rooms that children can be disciplined in?

is the wooden spoon old light?

bavman

depends on the congregation

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What is the GB tellin us?

by IP_SEC in

i?ve been reading some posts about the future of the whole governing body and fds doctrines and have come to notice something.. it seems like recently the literature has been focusing more on personal bible reading and understanding.

oh they still spew crap about how great the publications of the fds are, but i notice a little bit of a trend away from that.

for example: the bible reading highlights on the school.

bavman

I honestly believe these comments mean nothing as far as a trend to get away from the gb. The wt has consistently been "inconsistent' on all these matters in print. What really matters is what the elders, c.o., and so forth say. If pressed, on this arcticle and scripture the elders would no doubt say something like, 'Christ is the head of the congregation. And we know the gb is the representative of the congregation. Therefore, the spirit teaches us through that chain.' Jehovah, Jesus, GB, so forth...

bav

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Is it legal for the WT to Disassociate someone?

by confusedjw in

since it is well defined that when the wt kicks you out you are disfellowshipped - there action.

and that when you want to leave you disassociate - your action.

how is it that the wt can da you?

bavman

I had this discussion with the elders when i simply wanted to meet with others on my own and discuss the bible. They said even that was a reason to "da" someone. Basically, almost anything you do which is not acceptable to the wtbs and it becomes part of their knowledge is an excuse to "da" you. I actually had an elder call me and ask if i had joined another church yet because he wanted it to be easier to "da" me. What a freak eh?

bavman

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What are the odds?

by bavman in

o.k., we have all heard the stories.

some poor soul just went through some major crisis in their lives.

they pray of course.

bavman

O.k., we have all heard the stories. Some poor soul just went through some major crisis in their lives. What do they do? They pray of course. They ask God to please show them "the way". What happens next? The "dubbies" appear. Saved! Thank you Jehover!

I was wondering what the actual odds of this happening might be? If my math isn't too fuzzy i believe the ratio of publisher to person is about 1 to 1000. Is that correct? In the U.S the ratio is more like 1 to 250 right? Of course, the ratio of publisher to actual household would seem even lower wouldn't it? So, really, the odds of this happening are pretty damn good aren't they?

Come all you thirsty ones (mathemeticians) and help me out here. What are the odds do you figure?

bavman

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Ciro Aulicino in 2001 speaks about the UN

by tenrats in

let them talk, friends.

so, when you talk to people and they start telling you about this, say, "well we, we lost 14, too.

now how long this is going to stay open we don't know.

bavman

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The Bible Students as a Healthy Alternative

by jgnat in

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for some exiting jw's, they are "true believers" as far as some of the key doctrines of the wtbts are concerned, but they feel trapped in an organization that seems far removed from its original principles.. do you think the bible students are a relatively healthy alternative to the wts machine?.

bavman

tis true frankie, tis true