lately something has bothered me as regards to many on jwd who wonder what to do, once they have found the organisation to be a destructive, mind controling sect.
aside from these ones deciding how to exit without causing a judicial meeting nor a stir among the publishers, it whether or not they want to risk their marriage and or family ties.. many on this site have related how their marriage fell to pieces because the dub mate could not accept their loved one "leaving jehovah", and they could never meet in the middle to save the marriage.
others who leave, push their dub mate away by their constant verbal expressions against the organisation...because they think they should....hence, the marriage falls apart.. here's the hard part i don't know the answer to.
gumby:
I find it odd you thought there was no mature discussion about this. What was it lacking in your opinion
Matey - It's not lacking at all - with such an easily misconstrued title I was merely being 'tongue in cheek' ...
It is very mature, and has lots of very grown up talk in it. You can be very proud of it!
Bull!
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after doing battle with the sellotape and tearing my lip (oh the dangers of xmas present wrapping) and staying up late to pack, i'm finally heading on my way towards seattle.... catch some of you guys sooner rather than later.. be good, now .
In the words of the great Monty Python team....
"You Lucky, Lucky Bastard" (life of Brian - Jail scene)
Have a safe journey and a great time my friend - I'm sure you'll be well "Looked After!"
Cheers,
Bull!
You're right. Very distasteful (I hate babybel) but very, very funny !
Bull!
so, if you handed a jw a copy of the un report on the wtbs involvement, how do they react?
are they able to explain this away?
just curious.. red
pole:
They have a very generic algorithm. The content of the information you present is unimportant. The question they ask is this: "Is this information
a) upbuilding
b) destructive
to the organization?".
If the answer is b then why should we believe it?
Simple.
Excellent post pole. I've seen this attitude so many times, but would never have thought of expressing it like this. So simple, but makes a huge statement!!
Bull!
lately something has bothered me as regards to many on jwd who wonder what to do, once they have found the organisation to be a destructive, mind controling sect.
aside from these ones deciding how to exit without causing a judicial meeting nor a stir among the publishers, it whether or not they want to risk their marriage and or family ties.. many on this site have related how their marriage fell to pieces because the dub mate could not accept their loved one "leaving jehovah", and they could never meet in the middle to save the marriage.
others who leave, push their dub mate away by their constant verbal expressions against the organisation...because they think they should....hence, the marriage falls apart.. here's the hard part i don't know the answer to.
Freedom or Bondage
I can't tell you how disappointed I am after reading that title and finding a sensible, mature discussion in this thread....
... but now that I'm here....
IMO, it's down to the individuals needs and tolerance levels. Family and friends are a big pull to stay in and go through the motions.... but knowing it's a lie has surely got to wear you down after a while.
Having had that decision made for me by the wonderful loving elders of my old congregation as they slammed the the door shut behind me, I've experienced the 'lost family and friends' to a greater or lesser degree, and think that it would be easier, and better long term, to walk away and take the consequences.
You can rebuild your life after leaving the org, even if you have to leave your family behind. One day that family is gonna be gone anyway, and then all you have is memories, and an empty, false life to endure till you die. And if it did turn out to be true after all, you wouldn't have much of a resurrection hope anyway, cos you didn't serve for the right reasons.
Just my opinion of course!
Bull!
just a quick run-down for those who haven't followed my court case so far: .
my ex and i have joint custody but primary residence is with her.
she has broken a bunch of the orders that the judge made.
I'm sure you have all the advice you need from your fellow americans - laws etc may be different here in the UK.
So...
I just wanted to offer support, and let you know that you are being thought of as you go through this!
Best of luck,
Bull!
my 11th great grandchild was born at 9.13 pm tonight 8lbs 30z by natural childbirth her name will be tavia melanie legg.
mother & baby is doing well- great granma is totally exhausted.....
Congrats mouthy,
Hugs, kisses 'n' sloppy stuff to all from across the pond, !
Bull!
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...or hurt you.. as an example: drive your car off a cliff like in the movie groundhod day, just for the hell of it.. basically something that would normaly kill you or leave you messed up real bad... but in this case you could "reset" all new again.. don't be shy... i won't think your weird if you want to blow your head off just to see what it's like.
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missy04:
Actually I would kinda like to ride a bull....I've done almost the exact same thing on a few horses
I'd be happy to oblige... can't say that'd kill ya but the missus might if she found out ! LOL!!!
I'd love to stay underwater and observe the life down there, wander around shipwrecks etc...
and I've always fancied hitting 200+ mph on a motorcycle on the public roads !
Candidlynuts - ROFLMAO !!!
Stoppit girl, you're killin' me !!! Love the cartoon !!!!
Bull!
i noticed while reading a few posts and the one about weight in particular that there is hardly ever anything positive said about the virtues of men.
so with the help of menweb.org and the good men project i have copied this precompiled list.
feel free to add to this list as you see fit:
fbf:
a few women too ... even fart to order
Are you speaking about personal achievements ??? You sound like the perfect woman to me !!
Bull!
i was talking with my mom the other day and we got on the subject of my father's funeral.
it old her that one of the reasons my son did not ever want to go back to the kh was because of how i was shunned, even at my dad's own funeral.. she said "i know, he just doesn't understand" - i replied "no - he knows why - he just doesn't believe that's what jesus would have wanted".
she had no response to that.
rhcp:
You left a woman speechless, you are to be commended!
You are obviously soooooo much braver than I am !!! LOL!!!!
Bull! (but I am brave enough to laugh at it !!!!)
