(Mistake #1) Heard all about it in 1961 when my mother became one. I listened and believed it.
(Mistake #2) I got baptized in 1970.
(Best move on my part) Started fading about 1999.
HappyDad
(Mistake #1) Heard all about it in 1961 when my mother became one. I listened and believed it.
(Mistake #2) I got baptized in 1970.
(Best move on my part) Started fading about 1999.
HappyDad
today i am 17. i just feel excited but i can't run up to witnesses and tell them... so instead i'll just quietly celebrate with all my friends on the board.
thanks guys-- you make life easier.
I just posted on the other post but I'll say it again cause you are one cool young man. Happy Birthday Richie!
Thanks for posting the great pictures.
HappyDad
i've got all these bethel pics to share with you and i hope i can the good ones posted.
i will only be posting ones of bethel... cause if you want to see nyc there are other places to do that.. .
here is the entrance to walkill... another good use of those voluntary donations.. here's the boys doing some work on... bindery equipment i think (at this point i was still half asleep).
Happy Birthday Richie!
Thanks for posting the great pictures.
HappyDad
alcoholics anonymous claims that alcoholism is a disease.
somehow i think that is just a way of excusing the person from the responsibility that they chose to drink and they chose to let it become an addiction.. what do you think?.
sirona
Alcoholics Anonymous claims that Alcoholism is a disease. Somehow I think that is just a way of excusing the person from the responsibility that they chose to drink and they chose to let it become an addiction.
Sirona,
I'll try to make a long story short! When I was an elder, I found the pressures of that position and life in general too much to handle. There were also the seeds of doubt about the religion I gave many years of my life to. So what does a dub do to ease these pressures? He/she drinks to go to another dimension far away from the JW mindset. That is what I found myself doing. From a moderate, pleasureable, social drinker, my drinking became a habit. And then it became an addiction. My family was suffering because I was taking my frustrations out on them. So what did I do? Thanks to a workmate who was in AA, I started going to AA meetings. Now that is something I kept to myself because holding hands and praying the "Lord's Prayer" was a no-no according to the WTBTS.
Anyhow, from that first meeting I went to in 1989, I never took another drink for many years. As I learned about the reasons behind heavy drinking, I bought into the whole idea about it being a disease and everything else AA and the recovery industry espoused. But part of it bothered me. As I was slowly gaining more doubts about my JW religion, I could see similarities between it and AA. It reminded me of a cultlike mentality that said that if you quit going to meetings, you would eventually drink again and it would be worse than ever, and you will die from it. The JW counterpart said that if you quit going to meetings, you would become worse than ever and you would die at the big A.
I can say that AA helped me, but I no longer buy into the disease concept......which brings us up to today! There is another approach to quiting drinking for good if one wants to. It is called RATIONAL RECOVERY. The founder and author is Jack Trimpey and you can see all about it at http://rational.org/
This is what I now use if I find myself wanting to drink again. It blows the whole idea of alcholism as a disease and the "you have to go to 12 step meetings or you will drink yourself to death" concept completely out of the water.
AVRT (addictive voice recognition technique) is what RR espouses and as far as I am concerned, it is the best way of rehab ever. So for anyone reading this, check it out on the web. Buy the book and quit drinking for good if that is what you want to do. People have used RR for alchohol, drugs, smoking, etc. Who knows? Maybe someone might even break free from the WT mind control using AVRT. lol
HappyDad (of the non-drinking, having a good time and good life class) ------->for me.
words cannot describe what i am feeling right now, but what else have i got?.
so let's start with euphoric.. today i ran into an old jw friend.
we were teens in the troof together, neighboring congregations.
Wonderful experience Merry!
I would love to have an experience like that. When I occasionally run into an old JW acquaintance (never did have a REAL JW friend) the first thing they ask after saying hello is......."are you still going to so and so KH"? My answer is......"I haven't been to meetings for quite a long time". They usually change the subject.
HappyDad
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what a great world, we are throwing good food away because we are too lazy or dumb and don't value it while millions elsewhere starve to death.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4443111.stm.
It is hard to cook for a household of two. I love my freezer!
jgnat,
Try cooking for one. I've gained a few pounds since I've been by myself the past 9 years and I tell everyone that you can't cook for one...so I cook for two and eat it all.
Really! I love my freezer also. Leftovers come in handy those days I don't feel like cooking.
HappyDad
tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
Schism to Old Soul...............
You are a liar.You're also a hypocrite.
And he had the nerve to say that in my last post........all I did was call him names........
What names? Nothing such as he called Old Soul.
He makes no sense at all.
HappyDad
tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.
the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.
through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.
Some people continue to read what I have to say because they're not sure of themselves. Another reason is that they know that I'm able to defend all that I say.
What does this mean?
In all my life, I always understood that to defend oneself meant giving ANSWERS.
Schism..........it seems to me that you NEVER give an answer. You just ask another question. Seems like you are not really that informed but prating on from years of "rote" memory.........all the stuff that was repeatedly put into your memory bank of a mind is just fodder to fill the void.............nothing with substance.
Reminds me of myself when I would agitate people by knocking on their doors. When I had a "householder" who had knowledge of the bible (usually a nominal Christian who believed from the heart and not from rote memory) and could defend their beliefs, I was dumbstruck. Their reasoning was so true and basic, and I would say anything to continue my JW circular reasoning since I could not really argue from the bible. I have had a few years to pore over the bible on it's own merit, I now find my argumentative response to them completely stupid............just like yours Schism. As I was.........you are. Blinders are hiding what is really there and you REFUSE to acknowledge it. Someday you just might really understand. But for now, I expect to see more swill coming from your keyboard......nothing of substance........just JW swill!
HappyDad
i just got a pm from mouthy/grace/granny and she is not feeling up to par these days..... her arthritis and diabetes is acting up..... can you please send her a special prayer or thought her way..... we all know she well worth it..... .
hope you get well real soon...... .
love morty..... i have thoughts being sent to you granny and i hope you feel better real soon......
((((((((Grace))))))))
My prayers are with you. Please take care.
Love ya,
HappyDad
put your hand on your hips.
switch when you walk.
do popular dances where you shake yo money maker.
Couldn't wear ANY sports team or beer t-shirt when working on a quick build KH. (the bros were told to go out and get plain t-shirts)
Couldn't use the term "brown nose" and also rub the nose while using this term in a public talk. ( I did this and was chastised by a sister afterward as to the meaning of the term........no one else said a thing about it )
Couldn't buy ethnic food from a church because that was supporting Babylon the Great.
Couldn't buy a Harley-Davidson but could buy any other motorcycle because of the bad image of Harley. ( yeah....right. I finally bought my Harley in 2001 after I quit going to the KH)
Couldn't let my mustache (that I grew in 1973) grow down over the corners of my mouth. (Fu Man Chu was too hippie)
Couldn't wear a leather ball cap in FS but is was ok to wear a dorky 1940's style fedora ( I let my head freeze before I would look like a dork) The bros that did wear these looked sooooooooo stupid. I didn't want to be seen with them.
HappyDad