anybody have the current 'time requirements' for reg.
publishers, pioneers, etc..?
also, can you tell me what are the duties of a ms besides holding the coveted microphone?
But in nearly every congregation there is at least one Brother or Sister Weneversee, who doesn't EVER meet for service (unless the CO is in town) but gets slightly over the national average every month anyway. The subject of much discussion. How they get so much time is such a mystery.
lol...we used to call those Secret Service hours.
Axel
jehovah's loses comp case
church may be forced to pay millions
by jess wisloski.
Great news! It seems to be coming in more frequently.
Remind me never to cross Danny H.
Axel
well i'm finally doing it.
i'm getting braces again.
back when i was quite younger, i had removable braces.
Yes, I got them at an older age and dont regret it at all. It was one of the first things I did when I realized that I would probably be around for a while and the End was not right around the corner.
The time went by faster than than I expected.
I got used to them after a while...
The fact that I was taking care of myself, I think the perception was that I was conscious and cared about my appearance.
Never got the feeling that I came across as nerdy...when you're older, it seems to mean something different and didnt seem to hurt in the looks/attractiveness dept. as much as I imagined it would...at least that was my experience (or what I wanted to believe anyway)
Do it, you'll be fine.
Axel
i think they will call it 'keeping the eye simple'.
we found ways to reduce the bethel force in order to put more emphasis on the 'preaching work'.
probably in a km article.. or maybe that has been done and i missed it already.. jeff
...forgot to answer the question. I've already heard this one:
"They [WT] want us to concentrate more on the preaching work."
i think they will call it 'keeping the eye simple'.
we found ways to reduce the bethel force in order to put more emphasis on the 'preaching work'.
probably in a km article.. or maybe that has been done and i missed it already.. jeff
One thing I always hate is when I do something that later turns out not to have been the smartest of moves...and then later there is suddenly a rush of people who suddenly show up and say "Well you should've done this" or "You shouldve done that".
Its even worst when they preface it with something like "Well I started to say something, but...."
It is with those thoughts that I make the following suggestion to exiting Bethelites:
Get what you can and what you think you may need...while you can. Once out, no matter how its framed or labeled, in financial real world dollar terms, most of you will basically have the same benefits plan as a Regular Pioneer with all its many benefits. COs, if one is able to snag one of these spots, may have it a bit better for a while anyway. For the rest, good luck on the job search. Bethelites- take note, you will be entering the real world now. No more cooked meals, made beds, automatic laundry service, medical. Get what you can while you can. If you have access to compelling inside documents that may later be of use...get while you can, you never know when you'll need it and wish you had. Yes, the friends will assist ...for a while, but ultimately it will only be you and your spouse. In the real world, when they lay people off, they will often wait till the last moment to let them know...and then proceed to have someone accompany them out the door. There is a reason they do this. Axel
jehovah's loses comp case
church may be forced to pay millions
by jess wisloski.
They take wonderful care of you up to a point, and then you're on your own
This should be a sobering, wake up and smell the coffee thought for bethelites on the way out. The fact that many will be reassigned is just a nice way to say "you're on your own now". You will basically have the same care plan as a regular pioneer with all its many benefits . Good luck on the job search. Bethelites- take note, you will be entering the real world now. No more cooked meals, made beds, automatic laundry service. Get what you can while you can. If you have access to compelling inside documents...get while you can, you never know when you'll need it and wish you had. Axel
obviously, there is no answer to this, i just think it's an interesting ??.
my personal opinion is that within 10 years, the wts will be a shell of it's current (and especially former) self.
it may not even take that long.
I stated my comments above, well just because. There is no way I believe those things will really happen.
They need to evolve or go through the process of evolution. Take for example the animal kingdom and evolution (if you believe in it). Animals themselves do not have it within themselves to evolve. In other words, if my short-faired dog is suddenly tossed into the artic, he himself cannot suddenly grow the coat of an alaskan dog to adapt to the environment. He is what he is. His DNA is already set. He will only pass on the capability to evolve to his offspring, and then they will adapt over time. If the suceeding offspring do not evolve fast enough, they become extinct.
Only those who are born with a more insular coat of hair will survive (survival of the fittest). If they cannot evolve fast enough, they become extinct. If they can, they survive, but in a different form. Obviously this takes a lot of time.
The internet has greatly shortened the time they need to adapt or evolve. The current leaders of the WT do not have it within themselves to adapt...they cannot suddenly change their spots. Maybe the future leaders can, but the time needed for a successful evolution has become very, very short.
They are being tossed into the cold without a coat. The current leadership is showing it will not evolve. And only time will tell whether the org goes the way of the dinosaur or can truly evolve...and if it has the time it will take?
Axel
obviously, there is no answer to this, i just think it's an interesting ??.
my personal opinion is that within 10 years, the wts will be a shell of it's current (and especially former) self.
it may not even take that long.
I agree with you Gary. The problem is there is no one with the combination of charisma/cajones to put their neck one the line to propose anything radical enough to turn the ship around. They have already made an example of a few to instill the needed fear. Here are a few changes that I believe would begin to turn it around. Take note WT:
My fingers are tired now, but that should get you started. But you should hurry, because the hemorrhaging is increasing.
Axel
i mean - many of us had a history that was exclusively in the 'truth'.
nothing else.. now having left, do you long for a discussion with some who share your past culture, understandings, and lifestyle?.
is that the 'appeal' of this board to many?
is it like we have no history - like a blank page has been inserted in our biographies
Absolutely. This becomes even more evident when filling out an application, and it ask for personal references...and sadly, none are available. Its like, don't you know anybody?
This becomes more of an issue when compounded with the hardships in creating new relationships.
Axel
i don't know if i could've 15 years ago because of having nowhere else to go, but now i know i couldn't stay.
what about you??
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Another quick point:
I believe the intenet is a big threat to the WT because through information, it exposes so much of their misinformation.
But the bigger threat is that of networking with others who have been there done that. When jws can see that they are not alone in their depression in the "spiritual paradise, that they are not crazy, and that their thoughts are shared by many others, this is the bigger threat. It will provide many the courage to peek behind the curtain. That number is increasingly reaching a critical mass. The internet will provide the support.
Axel
