i want to order the book ( i think its called captives of concept).
does anyone know where i can order it from?
ive just ordered releasing the bonds, by steve hassan, but i couldnt find that book on the web site.. is captives also written by steve hassan?
I want to order the book ( I think its called Captives of concept)
Does anyone know where I can order it from? ive just ordered Releasing the bonds, by Steve hassan, but I couldnt find that book on the web site.
Is Captives also written by Steve Hassan?
Thanks
Also are there any other books you can recommend, Im off for the summer so plan to do a lot of reading.
i made an interesting find last evening.
i stumbled across a site purporting to be a jehovah's witness reform movement.
while it sees value in jehovah's witnesses, its primary purpose is to reform the governing body.
Jaffa, I agree. after looking at this site I wondered how the owner could still be an active JW, but there are many different reasons why ones stay in the org.
I tried to think how I would feel about this site had I still been in,( Ihavent been to a meeting in over a year ) I must have been very innocent, as I knew nothing of the scandles and really believed all my doubts were my fault.
I think this is true of many, I have a young adult daughter who is still in,she in newly married and they are having trouble with the new cong and PO already (yippee) but I hate to see her unhappy and she knows she can have a moan to us, but we want her out. The only trouble is how to do it without her going on her guard.
How do you get information out to JW about these non threatning sites without them becoming suspicious of you. Although I dont believe in reforming the org, this site could be the first step for the SPELL to be broken for many ppl who still believe the WT is the only true religion
If anyone has any ideas let me know,
i asked a dub this question, and have heard similar things in the past.
if i asked a dub why they believe in the divine appointment of the watchtower as jehovah's one and only organization i think they would answer in the following way.. 1. because of the success of the org, and all the info they put out, and the preaching work.
it has to be divinely directed, there is no other explanation.. 2. because of how well what the org teaches matches up with the bible.. 3. there has to be one true religion!
I would have said no 3
I had a little check list when I had doubts
1 Are we created or not --------------Yes
2 Is God the God of the bible .........Yes
3 Is he Jehovah------------Yes
4 Who today worships Jehovah------------The witness`s
5 Who else teaches about Jehovah--------No one----------Bingo...um they must be the only true religion
How stupid can you get
i just wanted to share with you all my experience from friday night.. from this board i encountered a poster that used to be in the same congregation as me some time ago... blissisignorance.
i am sure that many of you know her.. well i made contact with her and after a few hiccups i went to reunite with her and her hubby (who i also knew for many years) at the home where they cooked me a beautiful meal.
i cannot begin to describe what an elated feeling i had when i left their home.
I often wonder if there are ppl here that I know personely, but how do you find out?
Its such a small world in the org, im sure I must know someone
did you ever get attacked by nasties from the animal world?
that includes getting stung by bees, wasps, spiders, scorpions, medusas, poisonous fish etc .
or perhaps suffered a snake bite, heavens forbid, or bites from dogs, lions, bears etc
When my children were small they had a hamster in the classroom. While I was waiting to speak to the teacher, I poked my finger in the cage. That thing litrally flew onto my finger and bit into it with its teeth, and wouldnt let go, the pain was incredible and I just couldnt get it off. My son ran to the teacher, to rescue me, I was so embarrist.
Finally, it let go, with blood pouring down my hand the teacher just pointed to a sigh that said "Dont touch me I bite" and walked off !!!!
i don't usually post many topics that deal with theology, so i think i'll try one this time.
why i say that the jw religion is based on logical fallacies:
you have a religion that claims to be sent by god and who has the closest thing to the "truth" of his word the bible and how they have love amongst themselves, therefore being the most godly.
I have got to get Steve Hassans book !!!!
I cant believe I read those WT and soaked it all in
Vitty of the gullible for 40 years class
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i just ran across http://www.livingwatersforum.com with its heading proclaiming: "the yorww congregation speaks as a 'voice in the wilderness' to all the congregations of jehovah's witnesses--isaiah 40:3.
" they consider themselves jehovah's witnesses and are concerned with the watchtower society's apostasy and are therefore calling all jehovah's witnesses to repentance.
their spokesperson is donald c. burney, who is also the author of "the report" book.
When I clicked on to register it said I was banned
in the years leading up to 1975, there was an implicit (if not explicit) discouragement of having children given the proximity of armageddon.
for the most part, this seemed to have been ignored.
my jw grandma now has great-great grandchildren.
I had two children, but really wanted more. I was just too afraid to bring more children into the world as armaggedon was coming "soon" and it was such a responsibility.
First I didnt know for sure I would get through armageddon, I believed it with all my heart, but didnt think I was good enough. So I couldnt in all concience have more kids
This is something I will always regret. The fear also spoilt part of the joy I should of had with my children, in the back of my mind I thought the children and I would die. it really affected my relationship with them, this is something I have thought more of lately and its made me really sad.
I wish I could turn the clockback, knowing then what I know now.
I had my first child before I came back in the truth, and got pregnant with my second when I was in the first flush of excitment that I was in the truth again
Regrets, Im finding this particularly hard to deal with at the moment
this is one of the funniest web sights that you will see that promotes a ministry.
click below to go to the community of christ church mens room
http://community-of-christ.mathew-mount.com/building-restrooms-men.htm
There used to be huge fight in our cong about the air conditioning I couldnt understand the statement about the childs arms missing on the picture, he said he wouldnt make a comment, which left me feeling he meant something. Very strange. It was all so serious too.
I liked the "back view "and comments of the church
