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  WTS-UN Human Rights Connection?

  by Van Gogh in

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  2. scandals

  sorry to regurgitate some "old light" onto your keyboards folks, but i came across the following link: .

  http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/0/66cf0523c6217c4b802567cc002f8b0e?opendocument .

  it shows how the wts was represented by three different observers from three different ngo's at the annual meeting of the human rights commission of the united nations in may 1999: .

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  Ozner

  Hi,

  Maybe you want to know what I think about it, as a JW:

  I would like to see that the WTS joins up with the UN to improve the live of many poor people in developing country's. At this moment the WTS does selective aid by (the NGO) aidafrique. It could be much efficiënt by using the UN ground organizations. I think many JW would be proud to see that the WTS improves real help to poor people.

  But about your case:

  The WTS is playing with words. When they say that the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society is no (longer) associated with the UN, then they are right. Because they use at this moment other corporations and associations when they visit UN and other forums. Many of the brothers - others than the rank and file - at the headquarters are traveling arround the globe to visit UN, UNHCR and other political forums.

  It is time that "our" WTS plays with open cards. Otherwise they (and we as JW) will be surpassed by the truth, not only when it concerns UN and other political, religious and non-religious consultation but also when it concerns financial affairs. At last, the internal history of the WTS is one of the main threats for us inside the organisation. It is time to change!
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  no more Pin machine in assembly hall

  by DannyBloem in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first let me say hi to you all again.. have been away for some time as the new internet polecy in the company i work for, suddenly did not allow people to use the jwd site anymore.

  (there is a filter to the sites that are allowed and not.

  do not know why jwd was suddenly on the list of blocked sites, probably i did use it too much....).

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  Ozner

  The bankcardacceptpoint was removed because there was much internal opposition against it.

  Many witnesses showed their distance from this "service".

  You did not, I presume.
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  Regarding Resolutions

  by Inquisitor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone here remember how we used to have resolutions at assemblies/conventions?

  the speaker would crescendo into a lits of resolutions to which the audience would readily (sleepily?

  ) say "aye!

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  Ozner

  There was a resolution 2 years ago on the convention.

  Just like in the old days.

  It was not funny! I hate it.
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  JW response to latest hard line anti-education WT article?

  by watch the tower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  based on some of the recent threads, it seems that the latest wt study article has created quite a stir within the congs.

  for those of you that are still attending meetings and in active association with the cong, i am curious as to what the private response of individuals has been like.

  i'm not talking about the usual, "wasn't that a great study?

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  Ozner

  In our congregation I heard 3 opinions about the article:

  1. the most outspoken: witnesses with no education at all condemned to follow Higher Education, learning to be "a captain on a sinking ship".

  2. some with a balanced view: "at the headquarters many brothers have followed Higher Education".

  3. most of the witnesses did not answer the questions of these article at all.

  But I think many of the cleaning-job witnesses will have no problem with this doctrine.

  I was thinking: "how are the Higher Educated watchtower officials thinking about it.

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  WT Study on Education - How did it go?

  by Inquisitor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i didn't attend the meeting today and i haven't spoken to any fellow witnesses about the study yet.

  anyone care to share how their meeting went?

  any interesting comments made for or against the wts policy on higher education?

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  Ozner

  There was a time when I thought that the future of our believe was: more education and educated JW's that would lead to an other kind of believe & theology. But now I am out of that dream. No reform anymore. This study places our believe back in time. Why? Our leaders are becoming younger (new members of GB). The Society uses high educated men for the organisation: accountants, law-specialist etc. computer-specialists, History-research, public relations etc etc. We - the rank and file - JW's are not all blind to see that this WT is very wrong.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-13-05 WT Study (Education)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  review comments will be in red

  wt material from todays wt will be in black

  quotes from other sources will be blue

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  Ozner

  As an - active thinking and not so active preaching - JW, I have to reject this article of the watchtower strongly.

  I posted earlyer that you have to beware wearing glasses / spectacles in the kingdomhall, because it shows you can read. Didn't we learn from the 70's?

  Sorry, I have much shame about this watchtower-article and it shows that the writers are still fundamental and not going in the direction of any reform of WTS doctrine.

  Ozner
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  JW in Cuba

  by Ozner in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear friends,.

  i have a few questions about jw in cuba: .

  - who does know more about the agreement between the wts and the cuban government?.

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  Ozner

  Dear Friends,

  I have a few questions about JW in Cuba:

  - who does know more about the agreement between the WTS and the Cuban government?

  - who could give more information about the posibility of freedom of religion for JW in communist Cuba?

  - did the WTS register itself as by the Cuban government?

  - who does know more about the WTS officials involved by this?

  I hope you will have some imput.

  Ozner
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  Daniel and politics

  by Ozner in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear friends,.

  the bookstudy 2 weeks ago was about the political function of daniel.

  he was at that time overseer of all the regional kings in assyria.

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  Ozner

  Dear Friends,

  The bookstudy 2 weeks ago was about the political function of Daniel. He was at that time overseer of all the regional kings in Assyria. It is funny to see how the writer of the Daniel-book openly writes about the political function of Daniel, although we as JW's now can and should not operate in a political function. Did you read it also?

  Ozner
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  "Brothers and sisters, open your hearts and your wallets." - Assembly day

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  i received this from someone who recently attended the "keep your eye simple" special assembly day.. ----------------------------.

  the title of this post was spoken by james pellechia, a bethel heavy.

  after the mid afternoon song, bro pellechia reads the accounts report.. the circuit assembly account had a surplus of $3,000, the account balance was $47,000.

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  Ozner

  A few years ago, at our assembly day, our CO told us the next line in his assignment (like Pellechia): "we have a parking-lot outside with some gates. If there is no money enough at the end of this day, we will not unlock the gates. So you have got a problem then! So, be wise".

  No applause for the CO!

  Ozner
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  Who is the most popular poster here ? .........ummm I think I know

  by vitty in

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  any topic and it turns into a defd debate, im not complaining, i enjoy it, as long as its friendly banter !.

  we need more active jws on this board.

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  Ozner

  Ozner is my most popular poster!