1. went to university and had my eyes opened. 2. researched "apostate" websites and joined this forum so that I could educate myself regarding the "truth"
mamochan13
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What have you done to heal yourselves from the borg & lead a content life?
by cognac inor, at least made progress in healing yourselves.... right now i feel like i have made a lot of progress.. i did the following that helped tremendously:.
joined this forum!
faced my husband regarding how i felt and feel that we have met eachother 1/2 way on this - even researched and prepared how to talk to him in a better way (i have a blunt, tactless way of bringing things up - in case you guys didn't notice, lol.
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JW spanking their kids
by asilentone inwhat do you think about jw spanking their kids at the kingdom hall?
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mamochan13
WTW makes some very good observations. As a born-in JW, I spanked my kids, unfortunately, but I never had to at the hall - they were well behaved there. Now that I've learned a lot more about child development and behaviour, I approach my grandchildren very differently. I'd never ever spank them. Instead I try to understand why they are behaving as they are, and address it from that point. There were many JWs I'd observe punishing their children for the benefit of others. One elder would make a big deal of taking his little guy (about 2 years old at the time) into the bedroom after every book study, where he would loudly beat him and force him to hold his head down because the child hadn't stayed perfectly still during the prayer. It seemed clear that this was done as a display for everyone else of what a "good parent" should be. What a jerk.
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"Bad" songs at JW weddings
by B_Deserter inwhen i was in my teens, jw weddings were quite the social affair.
of course, the music was strictly regulated by the elders.
somehow though, in each wedding, someone managed to get the song "you shook me all night long" by ac/dc into the dj's rotation, and all of the "bad" witnesses would have a blast dancing to it.
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mamochan13
The one they freaked out with during my day was, believe it or not, the Bird Dance. But it was always popular at weddings. I've also heard that Macarena was taboo at JW weddings during its heyday. We played in a band and always tried to avoid doing JW weddings because someone would always complain about some song we played no matter how carefully we screened them. There was so much inconsistency. For example one bethelite would get offended and walk out if we played Loverboy's Turn me Loose, yet she always requested Stevie Wonder's I just called to say I love you - a song we refused to play because of its reference to birthdays & holidays. Go figure.
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Notes From Hawaii-Gerrit Losch Talk
by Save My Soul ina (conditional) friend sent me some notes from the talk in hawaii.
gerrit was the keynote speaker.
this occurred 'immediately after the tribulation of those days' (matthew 24:29), referring to the destruction of babylon the great.
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mamochan13
I think something like that actually happened in France (I think) during WW2. I don't recall details, but several isolated congregations couldn't get the magazines or visits from COs. As a result they began to drift away and started believing different things. I don't even remember where I read it, probably in a yearbook.
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By what age can a child be indoctrinated?
by jwfacts inmy step daughter went to the memorial, which is her first meeting in many months.
a 7 year old girl came up to her and asked if she is baptised and when will she get baptised.. my sister has a 4 year old daughter.
when she was introduced to another 4 year old one question she asked was "does he love jehovah.".
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mamochan13
Children learn a great deal at a very young age. I've come across research on language development, for example, that if a child is exposed to another language at the time they first learn to talk, even if they don't learn the second language, they will be able to learn that language more easily as an adult. It's something to do with having absorbed the tone and nuances and ability to hear and form the sounds. I've also come across research that shows children are most open to learning prior to the age of 3 (brain absorption capabilities are at its highest). I know from working with women who were sexually abused as children that even if this occurred prior to acquiring the ability to speak, the body remembers and the experience will have a lifelong impact. So I think there is a possibility a child could be indoctrinated at a very young age. At the very least, impressions will be made that will affect development.
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Did anyone else watch the Oprah show on Mormon polygamy today?
by truthsearcher inthey showed families who were trying to be more "modern" (think big love).
to me, they seemed a bit evasive in their answers.
i don't know...the women on the show still looked miserable to me, although they claimed they were as happy as clams.. www.oprah.com.
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mamochan13
I didn't. But I remember when I first watched the documentary about the polygamists in B.C. I saw so many parallels with JWs. When you are brought up in a dysfunctional belief system from the time you are a child, what else can you do?
another interesting show was "devils playground" about the amish and the practice of rumspringa. (sp?) I find myself drawn to these kinds of experiences because they mirror my experience in so many ways. forced to follow a strange belief system as a child. I felt such compassion for those teens in Oprah's interview (online), because they have never known anything different.
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mamochan13
I vomit a little in my mouth seeing these. geez
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Who lets it be known that they were once a JW?
by lfcviking ini am curious, for those of us here who have left the jw org, who actually lets it be known to people that they were once a practicing jw.. for me, this is something i tend to keep quiet because it is something i'm not particularly proud of.
anyone else feel the same way?.
lfcv.
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mamochan13
depends on the situation. I don't rush into it. But I am proud of being an ex-JW.
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Would You Really Want To Live Forever With Dubs?
by shamus100 inhere is the hypothetical question of the day - would you, or more appropriately, could you live forever in paradise on earth with jw's?
with the hypocrosy, silly elders, silly people... feeding lions and cleaning up after animals... everyone living by waterfalls, like the jw's always portray in they're psychotic pamphlets..... or would you rather be dead.
i, personally, would much rather be dead.
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mamochan13
an eternity of torture!
no way.
But I would want to live forever in a world filled with a great variety of people....something like the way the world is right now.
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Totally Blown Away
by TrailBlazer04 inhi all.... i started reading and posting here some years ago, as my stepchildren were being raised jw's by their mother, and at one time in my misguided life i had studied w/the jw's.. anyway, time went by and we had less and less contact with the kids...until a couple of weeks ago.
my stepdaughter j swung by the house and we noticed something very different about her.
she was lively, talkative, fun!
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mamochan13
nice to hear some good news!! There is hope.