Posts by hamsterbait

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Power Struggle At Head Quarters Reason For Governing Body New Light?

by frankiespeakin in

well could it be that we overlooked this little idea in our reasonings on why the governing body is comming up with new light they love the idea of?

about the f&ds?.

you know to keep any type of rebellion at bay before it starts.. have you ever woundered what many that are closely associated with the governing body are feeling about these new guys called the governing body right now with all this new light loved by the governing body,,i smell trouble a brewing for these guys right there at headquarters i'm sure thier dealing with everbody they meet they reflect this same attitude so they got to be making enemies..

hamsterbait

They will continue to lose their "power " over the R&F witless.

Peoples expectations are different now. They dont want an angry genocidal God. More and more are saying "I dont want to worship such a monster." Even in the litterature God is not Mad when you sin, just "sad" (aww poor baby!)

People do not accept "because we say so " as a good reason for anything anymore.

If Jehoobie only wants us for what he can get out of us (evidence the discarding of elderly beth hellites in Spain and NY with no pensions or savings) he can go spin.

You mean God only loves us conditionally? The WTBTS is already dying, but nobody recognises it yet.

HB

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Two Witnesses stuck in a elevator or car without Chaperon. Would they fornicate? Yes/No

by Witness 007 in

im amazed how going witnessing sisters who knew me for decades would sit only in the back seat on the way to the hall...to avoid any sex at the traffic lights!!!

and chaperons 1840's style are needed because two witnesses alone for 10 minutes would go at it like animals even after all the training watchtower articles and talks being jahs clean org.

and all..

hamsterbait

Yeah - it really is the kind of crap the meat beatig beth hell teenagers must have read in Hustler of whatever.

The real problem is that the Gibbering Buddies think we are going to do what they want to do...

HB

33

Blood Transfusion Increases Mortality in Heart Attacks

by Earnest in

i understand that the objection to blood transfusions by jehovah's witnesses is purely a scriptural one.

whether or not there are medical benefits to avoiding blood transfusions is, or should be, irrelevant.

however, for those who are not convinced by jw understanding of the scriptures in this regard, and those who don't believe either in the bible and/or in god, the fact that blood transfusion is associated with increased mortality in heart attacks may be of interest.. a systematic search of studies published between january 1, 1966, and march 31, 2012, was conducted using medline, embase, cinahl, scopus, web of science, and cochrane central register of controlled trials databases.

hamsterbait

Why would ANY doctor prescribe a blood transfusion for a heart attack? The increase in blood volume would put a further strain on the heart!!!

HB

177

A comet coming to end the world? Useful information?

by EntirelyPossible in

thoughts?

a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.

they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.

hamsterbait

There is a comet due to pass earth within 14 000 miles about Feb 15th. about 50m across. It will skim inside the orbits of our satellites. if it hits the atmosphere it will devastate an area of 700 km.

Maybe I should go to a meeting?

HB

25

It Appears The Elderly Are More Taken Care Of Then Ever Before By The Elders

by minimus in

jw
friends

i usually find fault with the religion but i must give credit when due.

in the hall my mom is in, they regularly check on her and assign different ones to visit and check on the elderly.. if there's a storm or an extremely cold day, they come by to make sure the elderly have everything they need..

hamsterbait

It is a lottery with respect to these issues.

If your Mom is lucky enough to be in a congo where she has had friends for years, and genuinely kind nice guys at the KH then like any social club they will look out for one another.

Other kingdumb hells are fulll of self -seeking vengeful greedy venomous snakes and these are unfortunately the norm. My mother would have woken up to TTATT if she had been at the lousy congo I eventually ceased attending because I was sick to death of realising every week that I was not even a second class citizen.

HB

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Even after reading Crisis of Conscience, one thing (at least) still puzzled me

by kepler in

it was several years back and from time to time i will look something up in the index.

all manner of things about jw life are revealed - as well as discussions within the leadership, plus historical and contemporary controversies - but there is still something i missed.. please excuse me if this is not a detailed summary.

when the drum roll starts for the purge, it appears that the friends and associates of ray franz are targeted first.

hamsterbait

There was an announcement in the Kingdumb Misery that

"Raymond Victor Franz is no longer a member of the Bethel (beth hell) family" But he was not DF until they rewrote the rules(again).

Interestingly - his wife also attended the meal with Ray's DF boss but was not herself DF...

HB

15

144,000 before 1935?

by nolongerconfused in

i've always thought about this but have never received an answer on how the wbts explaiend the phenomenon.... to my understanding, every member of the wbts had the heavenly hope...however, by 2 classes were created...the heavenly, and earthly hope.... does anyone know the number of jw's as of that famous assembly of 1935 where the earthly hope was revealed and imposed?.

what is the wbts explanation for the thousands of jw's who had heavenly hope now all of a sudden have the earthly hope?.

this leads me to one conclusion...how dare this or any other organization determine what your hope or believe should be...shame on them.

hamsterbait

There were members even in the early twenties who believed the WTBTS, but did not want to go to heaven.

(I knew an old Bible Student, and she told me many tales of those days) Those who did not want to go to heaven were known as "JOnadabs". It was the identity of these that was moot. Until 1935 the great crowd was also a heavenly class, who only got into heaven by trials and great tribulation, because they had not made a clear stand for Christ the King. ( See "Light" 1931)

Paul wrote that every work that is worthless will be burned up, but the one with faith who loses these will be saved "yet it will be as by fire."

Of course we can all guess the REAL reason for Freddie and Da Jug dreamong that one up cant we?

HB

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Apostates are narrow-minded victims of brainwashing who believe everything they read

by cedars in

jw
friends

or so says the person who left this comment on jwsurvey.org.... what just amazes me is how people can pass judgement on others, make vast sweeping statements and make out that they know best.

this isnt just based on this page, but other pages ive read on this website.

while youre at it why not just say all black people are criminals, all asians are rapists and all white people molest their children.

hamsterbait

Well - all I can say is what a great job you are doing. I only wish I had the time and patience.

If I had my way I would just blow Witchtower HQ sky high!

HB

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NOAHS BIBLICAL FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED, SAYS FAMED ARCHEOLOGIST WHO FOUND THE TITANIC

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/11/noahs-biblical-flood-actually-happened-says-famed-archeologist-who-found-the-titanic/ .

"the story of noah's ark and its associated flood continues to be retold to children and studied by theologians, alike.

while some dismiss it as a mere fable, others believe wholeheartedly that the event literally unfolded, with a massive down-pouring of water ravaging the earth at god's command.

hamsterbait

So BASICALLY he is saying that a catastrophic flood did happen in the middle east that left an indelible impression, and influenced the myths in the region- much in the same way such floods did all over the world.

Nothing big in this.

By the way, why is it called the "Black" Sea??

HB

31

My Jw mother hates me and always has

by 20yearfader in

i just need to vent,you see i was a born in.it's taken me 20 years after fading from the org to finally get my mind free from the wt dogma.i was on the phone with my aunt today and the subject of my mother her older sister came up.now mind you i haven't spoken to my mother in a month or so after my daughter stayed the weekend at her house and she was being tag teamed about the hall and how i took a vow to jehovah and i'm a failure and i'll be destroyed at armagedon.this exchange upset my daughter so much that she was near the point of tears when she returned home and she hasnt spoken to my mother or father since.anyway back to the conversation with my aunt,she let it slip that my mother told her that she wished she had let the seamen that fertilized the egg that produced me had slid down her legnno bear in mind i can remember as a child running into her room playing and she would say to me as a 7 year old child "i wished i had left you in oblivion"this is one of many such saying my mother had for me......i wasn't a bad child i just wasn't allowed to do anything such as going outside going over a friends house....etc,i have struggled for years as to why this woman hates me so.i got baptized at 15 really as a way of pleasing them what the hell does a child know at 15??

?granted it took me some time to get myself together and put those hurtful comments in the past,but today when my aunt let it slip about what my mother has said about me it was like pulling a scap off of a wound.my wife always complains about how im emotionless and distance,this was done by me as a way of protecting myself.so i've decided and i hate to say this that my christian god fearing parents...are dead to me there is no way i can have a relationship with people that are so wicked and since she never wanted me anyway....it works out for the best thx i just needed to vent i felt like i was going to pop..

hamsterbait

it has been said many many times on this board:

NEVER EVER - EVER leave your child alone with a Jehovah's Witness.

HB