Posts by hamsterbait

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JW morale reaching new low

by kneehighmiah in

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many friends i've spoken with are becoming discouraged.

because of this it's becoming tempting to privately share my views with friends, but i know this is still too dangerous.

most witnesses in my circle are intelligent free thinkers.

hamsterbait

SFPW -

Very true. At one time there was maybe one person here and there in the circuit who everybody knew as a nut job.

Maybe one in a congregation.

Now I feel like I am in a room with mental patients on day release ("let outs" as mental health workers call them)

Talking to these LET OUTS with their ridiculous obsessions with demons, diet and depressions makes me feel like I am in a a Twighlight Zone Limboland.

And yes - nowadays most normal people work hard during the day, and play hard in their free time - so you only ever meet misfits and drop outs with some crisis going on. There is a brochure to hit everybody's weakness.

HB

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Death Of Print Update

by metatron in

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http://gawker.com/new-york-magazine-begins-to-give-up-on-print-1474820408.

little by little....... print media is dying.

i understand the head of buzzfeed asserted that 'there are no new newspaper subscribers being born', statistically speaking.. metatron.

hamsterbait

I am sure that once cheap easily available BOOKS came along, you had diehards saying there was no pleasure like curling up in bed with a good minstrel.

Culrling up in bed with a book is dying. Youngsters now have no hesitation in using new technologies.

The "BOOK" is set to become a luxury item, for pleasure in the quality of printing paper and presentation.

Think of all the trees that are not going to be cut down and pulped - it has to be a good thing in the long run.

Incidentally - did anybody notice how the Kindle when it first came out was shaped like the reader Janeway in Startrek Voyager was always holding?

HB

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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

hamsterbait

Haven't these verses bevome part of the Bible by general consent, even though they are found sometimes in the other gospel manuscripts??

Yet the Witchtower insists that "the body of Christian Litterature THAT HAS BECOME PART OF THE BIBLE" is authority. Yes - they actually printed that in a WT study a while back. (You'll need to search as I dont have the lit anymore - too afraid of demonic attack....

Of course they mean their heaps of steaming WT magazines and books, most of which is obsolete and self contradicting.

Yet they can edit the Bible. Try doing that with a WT volume and see how fast they DF you!!

HB

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Jehovah's Witness church elders who refused to comment on a child abuse scandal did not "try to prevent a prosecution."

by Sol Reform in

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/90520/police-chiefs-letter-ignites-fresh-jehovahs-witness-child-abuse.

police chief's letter ignites fresh jehovah's witness child abuse rowby kevin donald location: washington.

gordon leighton.

hamsterbait

But but but but-

The Watchtower has always said they HAVE NO CLERGY CLASS!!!!

So how can they claim clergy penitent privilege - especially as this is defined as between the clergyman and his parishioner and DOES NOT INVOLVE ANOTHER PARTY to the info???

This was shot down in US courts, as the WT requires elders to inform Beth Hell of all confessions to sin or crime, thus nullifyong any so - called "clergy privilege."

Two faced a$$holes.

HB

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Quotes to discourage JWs from researching WT history?

by JWOP in

are there any direct quotes from the watchtower's literature that discourages investigation into their past doctrines and practices?.

hamsterbait

On the "Millions now Living" talk:

There is a recording of Freddie Franz later on giving a talk, where he said that "MAY" never die was changed to "WILL" never die because the proof of what they were saying was irrefutable.

Go find it yourself and listen.

Oh - and the "Faith in Action" DVD is dishonest. Compare the photo in Proclaimers book of the stage at Cedar Point in 1919 with the video.

The Photo of the stage in the book shows the platform surrounded by American Flags. These are airbrushed out in the video. WHY?

One thing that still sickens me is the way jdubs lie to themselves and others, and the way their memories automatically delete and update - rather like the Stargate episode.

hb

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Rolf Furuli's accusation about VAT 4956 being tampered with?

by possiblepineapple in

i'm sorry but can someone here explain what this is about.

i saw someone on here called scholar on here saying that it somehow destroyed both coj and hermann hunger but how?

how does rolf furuli know that it was tampered with?

hamsterbait

Furuli is a teacher of languages in Sweden, I believe.

He is not qualified to evalute the astronomical data. (Which backs up 587)

He is not qualified to assert that tablets have been tampered with, and NOT consult an EXPERT (that means somebody with credetials to prove he can be trusted)

Furuli is a JDUB. He knows that to disagree with the eight popes will get him DF, and he will lose all his friends and family.

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Jehovah's Witnesses MOST FEARED VIDEO 220,000 views

by Watchtower-Free in

220,000 views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id18qonjzu4.

hamsterbait

I am SICK to DEATH of being asked to click a link, when the person posting it cannot be bothered to provide a brief synopsis.

How do any of us know if we are going to commit a crime merely by clicking - as in Europe, and many parts of the US?

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Why study the Bible?New JW video and propaganda

by suavojr in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfnsn2yvc.

hamsterbait

So that you can never again be conned by "true" believers into giving your life away one second at a time to a CULT.

HB

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WT article on ''never have we said Jehovah has said"

by Aussie Oz in

been going nuts looking for this.. i am sure i have read, and probably saved, a quote by them about not being false prophets but i am buggered if i can find it anywhere in search, google or my own pc.. can you help?.

i think its 2009 but not sure, where they have the line 'never have we said ''jehovah has said'' when ...'.

a link or pdf or scan or cut n paste, etc would be great!.

hamsterbait

They are liars when they claim never to have said these are the words of Jehovah.

There was an article "They will know a Prophet was in their midst", where they said that they back up what they say with the scripture: "this is what Jehovah has said."

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Early whale ancestors had hooves?

by hamsterbait in

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i have been online looking for actual images of the hoofed toes of early whales.. there is no lack of articles that say "such and such" had hooves on their toes, like their land dwelling ancestors.. i want images pictures of the relevant fossils.. all these references to hooves alone is like the self referencing of the wt with no actual tangible proof.. i am sick to death of looking at drawings that dont really prove anything....

hamsterbait

If you want a good laugh, read "An EArly Whale Fantasy from National Geographic"

They dont understand how a mutaion works, they dont know the proper biological definition of evolution, they dont know what "vestigial" (as in vestigial organ really means, and they are soo thick they cannot draw any conclusions or inferences from what they have rubbed their nose in.

HB