Posts by hamsterbait

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First Post - Emotionally Torn

by scaredtospeak in

i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.

i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .

i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.

Compaaionate faith is perfectly compatible with the facts of evolution. Life is still valuable and to be enjoyed. You can see it as having a purpose, even if we are too puny in this vast universe to ever get to the bottom of it. If you want, give your life YOUR purpose, one of your own choosing. it doesnt last long in the end.

You are finding all this stuff out at the right part of your life. You are not responsible for other peoples feelings and reactions to your convictions. Your parents are in a FOG themselves and cannot help it. But they have to deal with this for themselves, just like you are having to. It gets better.

Just remember that most people are basically nice, you have your whole life to make friends share love, and to leave something worthwhile behind when you die.

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LEOLAIA -does anybody know if she is okay?

by hamsterbait in

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not a squeak from our dear leo - she has put up so many excellent threads but she never posts now.

some of these should be archived for reference.. hope she's okay...... hb.

hamsterbait

Not a squeak from our dear Leo - she has put up so many excellent threads but she never posts now. Some of these should be archived for reference.

Hope she's okay.....

HB

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One thing about this site that bothers me

by keyser soze in

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the constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.

but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.

one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.

hamsterbait

At one time the menial jobs were done by people who were too uneducated or stupid to do anything else. Those times are gone.

However most born ins become window washers because they are happy with the "eggychashion" they get from the Asleep rag (equivalent to a college degree no less)

Most references are in threads to do with things like blood, transplants, going to college - I dont want an uneducated person advising me on life critical issues. If I need surgery or advice I go to somebody qualified to tell me what's what. It is what the word EXPERT tells us, as opposed to AMATEUR, cheese and cracker waiter, or window washer. (If I need advice on my windows or need catering I will go to a professional)

Even bible translations list the staff doing the work - not out of vanity but to assure the reader that they know what they are doing. (NOT so with NWT - how did marshmallow instead of mallow come to be in Job?)

Window washing is honorable work (my first job after university was cleaning) but most born in dubs do it instead of getting educated. NOT the same thing as doing it because you have NO CHOICE.

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What does money represent to YOU ?

by new hope and happiness in

for example does money represent to you power, love, joy and much more or does money represent to you feelings of worry, guilt, anger, sadness.. for myself i have always enjoyed living largely on little, and i can appreciate that the best things in life are free.

having said that i am glad i have been fortunate and sensible enough with money to never have exsperienced the anxiety of debt.

and it may sound silly but i dont think winning it big on the lottery would improve the quality of my life nor my family.

hamsterbait

Money gives you a certain amount of freedom.

All the other things we need to be happy in the here and now do not all require it.

Money makes being utterly miserable happier than misery in poverty.

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WT 2014 - 08 - 15 ..... but congregations are not required to do this.

by fastJehu in

you are older?

you have no pc or tablet?

you can't handle computers?.

hamsterbait

Of course the congo is not required to waste paper (costs $$$$$) printing stuff for old dinosaurs whose very existence in this old system at start of 21st century is an embarrassment to them.

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They are going to charge members monthly fees now! Society Tyranny

by MysticMage in

well there you have it folks.

they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.

down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.

hamsterbait

Can anybody post the illustration from a Witchtower study afeww years ago? It showed Average joe Jew, kneeling, praying in front of a very phallic altar with something running down it. The caption read: "I will give a tenth of everything I have to you."

The prepping the WTBTS does before sliding in Noolite is crafty. Like the november study on John 6 pointing out that those listening to jesus wd have bothe earthly and heavenly hopes. That change is on the way too

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JW Literature... Lots of it... what to burn and what to keep?

by ILoveTTATT in

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i have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.

i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!

(no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).

hamsterbait

Sell it on eBay. Even some of the books from the 60s go for forty dollars or more: things in which it is impossible for god to lie - (incidentally that is the one that explains why the witch tower translates ai'on with system of things")

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Anonymous Donation - Not!

by why144000 in

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my mother in law (in her 80's) just told me that she had the elders around to pick up her 'donation' pledge.

it was 'suggested that $20 a month was the average amount pledged but she could pledge more or less.

so, rather than an anonymous amount they have a signed document stating the amount of her pledge.

hamsterbait

Is this happening anywhere else apart from the US? Are they testing the ground there first, before unrolling it around the world, like with the donation for litterature arrangement?

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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

hamsterbait

Wait a minute -"your BROTHERS, THE CHRISTIAN CONGREGTION OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES"

Didnt they tell the court in Australia this did not exist, along with the according to them non-existent FDS??????

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Is this true, the Pope said an Atheist can get into heaven??

by jam in

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well if said that, one thing is for sure he wont remain a atheist.

if he is in heaven..lol.

hamsterbait

The church teaches that anybody who lives an upright life and follows their conscience goes to heaven, no matter what they believe. It's based on Romans , wher people of the nations are "a law unto themselves".

so a Muslim, Buddhist JW, atheist can go to heaven as long as they lived life with integrity.

where this leaves Torquemada and others of his ilk is moot... Or the 7 popes in NY Crooklyn Beth Hell.