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  Organization non-members ARE approved by God

  by YoursChelbie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does the bible contain accounts of persons who, while not active members of "organized" religion have god's appoval?

  if it does, this would contradict watchtower teaching, since they often claim that anyone who's not a baptized member of their organization will suffer destruction.

  further they claim that only active members of their "organization" have god's approval.

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  Bang

  So by telling everyone not to be concerned with where words come from, the wtbts are better equipped for both lying and covering up, to "keep the flock". They have the method for lying and twisting in a single word. i.e. worship=homage, jealousy=envy, envy=covet, charity=almsgiving, response-ability = assignment, humble=subservient, and so on, and on, and on.

  Having people over backwards while they smile about at how informed they are, all at the same time, lying to you and themselves as they go - straight down a pit.

  bang
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  IS the NWT really the WT Bible?

  by Bleep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondered how many people this this is all true.

  feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.

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  It appears that they didn't do the work of translating the bible, but rather stole from the harlot-beast-world-folk who did the work, and then changed it to suit themselves and their wicked desire, making out as if they were all some sort of scholars of antiquity.

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  What is your definition of........

  by SpiceItUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ......beauty?.

  i know the whole sentiment of beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  even rod sterling had his say on the matter (boy i loved that episode).. what is beautiful in your opinion?

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  Grace, Care, Gift and Being.
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  Our Jw's lives, evidence of no free will?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do humans truly posses free will?

  most of us look back on our lives as jw's and cant believe what we believed and did , so why did we do it?

  maybe we didn't realy choose , it only seamed like we did.

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  Humans are given free will, but sometimes a strong thief breaks into the house, and their own desires cause them to trade their freedoms.

  Often it is that the jws seek a refuge from fear, rather than simply remaining in God's hands and in the lightness of being, and then end up fearing a bunch of men instead. Peoples own desire for possession (Babylon) is very much involved in the giving up of free will, or trading it away. Loaded up with possessions (all sorts, stuff, sin and pride) it gets to the point where they prefer to nail Him down before they will lift Him up, rather than simply stand before Him, which if they did they would find was easy as He is most fore-giving - more than any of us. This fixing Him crucifies the trueness of God, and the Spirit is not in our spiritual food, the body we eat.

  Fear of loss, the loss of possession, is a big factor in the trading of free will, and later people find out that they're not who they wanted to be. Should have listened to Jesus, "whoever does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple". Everything - the descent into hell - where He comes to speak to us and be with us, when "all" is lost, and we are invited into a feast - the poor who are blessed, broken and handed out for our sake.

  I so wish that I could get through to the dubs. They seem to have very little free will at all.

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  Need Help with a Scripture...

  by mikepence in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would someone be kind enough to post the complete text of the scripture where jesus says 'to the extent that you...the least of these, my children...'.

  thanks,.

  mike

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  They take a text that commends charity and compassion
  and turn it into a pretext for cult obedience.

  How do they view that passage?

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  Jw Learn From The Best

  by comforter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the other day while i was at a discount center, a little girl offered me a tract about jesus.

  i looked at her and said, not today.

  but i wuz tempted ta say that i am already a christian and believer in the blood of jesus.

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  I wouldn't take it. How could I lie to the child?

  Kindly, very kindly, say "No thanks, that thing there is not for me - but don't be worried by it, because the Lord is for me, and for you of course."

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  Only one witness?

  by Bang in

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  just words, no works - people can't establish their word, yet they believe the lie, because they say they have works too.. don't be feeling too diddled - they did say they had works, it's just that eventually you couldn't establish it - the one witness was exposed as false because it cannot be both true and supported by good works - these witnesses don't agree.. bang

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  Just words, no works - people can't establish their word, yet they believe the lie, because they say they have works too.

  Don't be feeling too diddled - they did say they had works, it's just that eventually you couldn't establish it - the one witness was exposed as false because it cannot be both true and supported by good works - these witnesses don't agree.

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  How many books and mags must be sold...

  by pomegranate in

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  ...to build an empire like this??.

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  Jesus, that just put me off visiting the states.

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  JW or Satan???

  by 67mustang in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am going through the process of disassociating myself.

  as usual people are talking, some are rumoring me an "athiest" my brother thinks satan has me.

  it's crazy, just because i don't believe the jw's and want to leave, everyone is all over me.

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  Yeah, let your yes be yes and your no be no.

  And I wouldn't agree that you've been in the third grade at jw land. Rather - more like bound up in your own house with a strong man in charge of your spiritual belongings.

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  JW or Satan???

  by 67mustang in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am going through the process of disassociating myself.

  as usual people are talking, some are rumoring me an "athiest" my brother thinks satan has me.

  it's crazy, just because i don't believe the jw's and want to leave, everyone is all over me.

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  Don't worry about it, they're antichrists, under Satan's control, and they can't hear what you're saying. I was going to say to pray for them, but it's obvious that you already do that - in a way.

  "Fore-give them cause they don't know what they're doing" - give them spiritual growth before the natural time so they may realise and not be in the dark about who they are.

  Bang