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  why do people think jesus died on a cross?

  by watermelon in

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  i have always wonderd why so many people think jesus died on a cross.

  ive been brought up to beleive that he died on a stake.

  where did it come from about the cross?

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  Aside from historical evidence, nothing else fits. Christ is where all things meet, north, south, east and west. Paul speaks of the breadth of His love. In short, the cross is not just history, but properly symbolic of Christianity. I also think that the stake is an appropriate symbol for the wt society.

  Didn't the wt come up with some strange reasoning about a nail through two hands or something?

  My God has his arms open, even though I were to kill Him.

  bang

  Edited by - Bang on 1 August 2002 22:56:59
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  Proof That Monsters Exist In Real Life

  by Derrick in

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  2. friends

  the title is not misleading.

  i can prove that monsters really exist, although genetic tests of the species of these monsters might frighten and alarm you.

  tests will reveal human dna.

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  Derrick,

  The wt doesn't bring "spiritual relief" - but bondage. They've listened to one within who accuses them, the devil, and they have many demons. It's not a ministry of truth, it's about a lie, and with it they accuse the whole world. Telling about the terrible father, they proceed to clean and tidy their houses before he comes home, and when he does come home he brings others, more accusing spirits come and dwell there. Bound up in the judgement and accusations, their father certainly doesn't give them growth, spiritual growth - it's God who gives the growth - not fore-given?

  They have spoken as they have heard - about being accused and judged. I've heard what it is they say, again and again. I'm quite sure that reading such a thing as this would make them either more frightenend, more denying to themselves, more judgemental, or even worse, more confident that they are indeed sqeaky clean by their efforts - cleaned their house and ready for some more guests. There certainly are monsters.

  Their message isn't good news, 'God's spell', it would rank with the very worst news that I've heard yet, and at the moment I can't think of any comparisons. It's nothing but a deal, and one with a wicked image.

  bang

  Edited by - Bang on 1 August 2002 22:3:13
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  Jesus, Pharisees, and JWs

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading a little bit of the greatest man who ever lived book today and when i began to read chapter 85 ( searching for the lost ), something was crystal clear.

  i read this:.

  " the pharisees and scribes treat common people like dirt under their feet.

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  I am continually wonderous out how the wt uses language that drops themselves right in it. Such as being the locusts (from the pit nonetheless), or choosing a stake for a symbol (with no breadth of love), or earning your way to the kingdom which is the opposite of Christ - "it is your Father's pleasure to give you the kingdom".

  The pharisees did much the same by calling people "of the earth". Humble literally means "down to earth", not subservient as the wt makes out - but plain truthful, through and through, whether or not it may bring out offense in some folk. People were offended at Christ, but He sure didn't suck up to them about it in words - He had something truthful to say about the way of the pharisees, something "down to earth".

  "let your yes be yes and your no be no" I hope that I''ve been "of the earth".

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  Can Non-Jehovah's Witness Resurrect?

  by ApostleJon in

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  2. beliefs

  i have a question on resurrection after christ's 2nd coming... let say that some of my family has passed away without any knowledge of jw gospel or whatever in this case.

  can they resurrect and join us in the paradise to live forever?

  can they decide that they have nothing to do with jw but profess that they believes in christ and live in paradise with all of us?

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  his father (devil), her mother (possession)

  son and daughters (works)

  By that it sure seems like He was including dub types

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  IS the NWT really the WT Bible?

  by Bleep in

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  2. bible

  just wondered how many people this this is all true.

  feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.

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  Attention to the contemporary timing of the nwt reveals that it was a necessary development, for the dual purpose of saving face and promoting the wt specific doctrine. Being unable to refute theological argument that is based on The Bible, they needed their own version as a necessary means to support the work and pride that they have overtime developed in the dark message.

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  Short doctrine

  by Bang in

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  can you briefly sum up the teachings of the wtbts?.

  eg "boo" or "god is actually an asshole, this way out" .

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  Can you briefly sum up the teachings of the wtbts?

  eg "Boo" or "God is actually an asshole, this way out"

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  THE ATTITUDE OF A BETHELITE

  by minimus in

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  one of the most interesting things that i have noticed about being a witness is the awe that is given to bethelites.

  it seems that if you are a bethelite, you are accorded special privleges in congregations.

  you are honored when you visit a hall.

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  So if bethel is like jw college campus, I suppose that bethelites can get a masters in lie, then go and practice as master liars. No wonder many people have been duped into joining in with the org., considering that there are masters of the art of deception.

  I'd have to argue that bethel is a second rate college though, and that they aren't really masters of deception at all, just regular crims - must run more like a prison, where people get behind the biggest thugs, for protection.

  You know, I seem to be able to speak so badly of them without it being slander, but rather, it's actually understated.

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  What is your Myth?

  by Victor_E in

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  i asked myself, what is the myth you are living?

  and found that i did not know.

  so .i took it upon myself to get to know my myth, and i regarded this as the task of tasks..i simply had to know what unconscious or preconscious myth was forming me.

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  A WALKING PATHOLOGICAL LIBRARY OF LIES.

  I like that. Very apt.

  Light and dark is my kind of thing too. I find that "is and is not" makes me ponder too. "and Without Him was nothing made that Was made"

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  Theocratic War Strategy at my house

  by freeman in

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  2. friends

  well it looks like i find myself in the middle of the jw battlefield once again fighting the borg for nothing less then the soul of my younger son.

  many months ago i had forbidden my full-blown dub wife from bringing my young boy to cult programming, i mean meetings anymore.

  at issue was the shunning and blood issue.

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  It seems that you are the one who needs to use the strategies.

  Be very accomodating of your childs behaviours, likes, dislikes, ideas of fun, and don't be yelling at them (and certainly not at first contact times).

  First contact times make an impact - e.g. get home from work and go off about untidiness or something - no way. Children enjoy nicety, and being taken care of. If parent A yells at initial contact times, even at parent B - child wishes to avoid parent A.

  Be nice, but use that war strategy - during a nice happy time after prolonged contact, slyly let the child know that the wtbts are absolute nutjobs and have been known to lie and be nasty, but you let 'mom' go along with it because she'll get over it one day, and not be so scared of God, like you and your son.

  As for someone sneaking your child away without your approval - briefly, calmly, subtly and slyly mention that you heard of some people involving police, kidnapping charges and adverse publicity.

  Under no circumstances make a threat - either do something or not.

  bang

  Edited by - Bang on 1 August 2002 3:24:57
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  There goes the hood

  by LuckyLucy in

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  2. friends

  at the end of this article (bottom of page...right side).

  you can voice your opinion on this article.. i wrote and told them they need to let the people in the community know that their children are in even more danger than ever.. and i gave them the silentlambs addy.

  http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?brd=2035&dept_id=238095&newsid=4889830&pag=461&rfi=9

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  Have they always done quick builds or is it only since watching that Amish movie "Witness" ?

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