Posts by moomanchu

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JWs in North Korea?

by M.J. in

i can't seem to find any links to the annual report released earlier this year.

just wondering how many jws are in north korea.

it's a very oppressive place and must be very difficult for any kind of evangelizing activity.. here's an article i found about missionaries in n. korea: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/19/international/asia/19missionary.html?ex=1292648400&en=1735f2f1e2d4ad24&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss.

moomanchu

and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come.

There has to be witnesses there how else could the end come?

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Disfellowshipping for Gluttony?

by Smoky in

is that possible?..have there been any cases like this?.

my family have been on my case about me hanging around with people (non-jw family) that like to drink alot.

they went as far as to call me "a drunk"...now i do admit that i have been gotten drunk before on occasion, but i am not a drunk or an alcoholic.. so, i told my mother (obese) that if i were "a drunk" for getting drunk from time to time (not every day), then can she be considered "a glutton", for eating to much, obese, having health problems, all because of the way she eats?

moomanchu

My doctor told me "he's never seen a fat concentration victim"

Can anyone say legalistic religon.

I wonder If I can smoke if I do a Bill Clinton and don't inhale?

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How will JW's and the Society deal with the upcoming 'Centennial Season'?

by nicolaou in

okay so we're still a good seven years away but before they know it the watchtower will have to deal with all those centennials, the 100 year anniversaries they hoped and prayed would never come around.. how do you suppose they'll handle it?

how should we handle it?

what on earth are any long time dubs going to be thinking?.

moomanchu

Jesus enthroned as king in 1914!!! What has he accomplished during the first 10% of his millennial reign?

FF,

Excellent point never thought of this.

This would be a good apostate talking point to the hardcore JWs.

He has 900 years left whats he waitin for ? There is so much to do and he's lally gaging around.

Theres the resurection and then the teaching of them, and the tranforming earth into paradise oh and the burying of billions of people and ect........

Any other king or president that got off to such a slow start would be fired.

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Encouragement JW style

by moomanchu in

from my inbox.

> the talk was centered on being tired/weary.

>stand tall and only to lose them all at once violently ...was she tired?

moomanchu

From my inbox

>Subject: being tired?

> The talk was centered on being tired/weary. We are so tired in this day
>and age and the brother mentioned Jeremiah and how after being put in
>stocks for one day he was complaining and cursing the man that announced
>his birth and wishing that he had died in his mom's womb. He was tired.
>

> Then he asked what comes to mind when you think of Job's wife. Most
>people think of her telling Job to curse god and die. The C.O. asks why
>wasn't she rebuked with the others (the three so-called comforters)? It was
>brought out that Job's wife was tired. More tired that you can imagine.
>

> Think of this .when the messengers told Job that he had lost all his
>livestock, Job's wife lost hers too .when the messengers told Job that he
>had lost all his land and material goods, Job's wife lost hers too ...when
>the messengers told Job that he had lost all his children, Job's wife lost
>hers too ...think ...the children that you carried for nine months, bonded
>with as you breast-fed each and everyone of them .watched them grow up and
>stand tall and only to lose them all at once violently ...was she tired?
>...Yes!...Then to make matters worse (if they could get any worse), your
>husband mysteriously and suddenly develops huge boils all over his body
>that are open and oozing pus and stink. You watch as the man you love, the
>father of your children cracks a pottery jar and begins to dig and scratch
>himself in order to alleviate some of the pain, but to no avail.
>
> This man who has been all that to you, who is staying away because his
>breath is so bad that no one can stand it. You are sitting by helpless with
>no explanation for anything. Do you want to continue to see him suffer or
>would you too want him to die? Most of us would want a loved one out of
>his/her misery. So when Job's wife said curse God and die, she wasn't being
>disloyal to Jehovah, she wanted her husband's misery to be over. It was an
>act of love. She was tired!!
>
> In the end, not only was she not reproved but she was blessed with
>everything that Job received, more children, more wealth and a healthy
>husband.
>
> Well, I also wanted to add a comment shared with me concerning Job that
>was very helpful to me.
>
> There are those times due to our health problems either physical, or
>mental, that we are not doing all that we feel that we should.
>
> I was crying about it, and she asked me ...did I consider Job a faithful man?
> Of course I said "oh yes!"
>
> Then she lovingly pointed out, that at one time, all Job could do, was
>sit in the dirt, and scrape his sores. That was his act of worship, proving
>Satan a liar. He did not lose faith. So, next time you are being hard on
>yourself for circumstances beyond your control....remember the account of
>Job.
>
> So we can in spite of our circumstances still give a reply even if we
>are just breathing and praying to Jehovah to get through the next minute.
>Whether it is physical or mental distress.
>
> We can be liked to Job only able to scrape his sores and praying to get
>through this trial yet we are still doing what Jehovah has asked us to do.
>Give him a reply to Satan. This was powerful for me.
>
> "As the end draws near, you may find the pace may quicken, the road may
>get rougher, the path steeper. But make sure you never tire out, that you
>never quit, that you never become a dropout."

>
> - Lyman Swingle - June 1, 1989 Watchtower page 22

Didn't the JWs always slam Job's wife for being unfaithful to God ??

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CONTEST! See who can answer this really hard dub/bible Question.

by gumby in

aint i a clever bastard?

i worded that there thread title so's i get you to read this and help my poor forgetful, used to remember, brain out and show me some documentation using jw's vs. christendom teachings on this question.

here's the question.. how do you prove to a jehovah's witness that the "great crowd" spoken of in the book of revelations is a group who's eternal hope is a "heavenly one" rather than a "seperate" group of jesus followers with a seperate eternal residential destiny?.

moomanchu

I am so asshamed of myself for making this mistake.

I hope Earl will forgive me .

Either way Pokey looks like he is havin a good time .

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YOU GUYS!!!! Armagedon has already started!! Scanned PROOF!!

by Lady Liberty in

its like the boy who cried wolf one too many times!!.

sincerely,.

lady liberty.

moomanchu

As a witness you must keep looking forward to the kingdom of god.

Don't look back any one who puts his hand to the plow yadda yadda.

I don't know how you are able to read the bible then though??

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CONTEST! See who can answer this really hard dub/bible Question.

by gumby in

aint i a clever bastard?

i worded that there thread title so's i get you to read this and help my poor forgetful, used to remember, brain out and show me some documentation using jw's vs. christendom teachings on this question.

here's the question.. how do you prove to a jehovah's witness that the "great crowd" spoken of in the book of revelations is a group who's eternal hope is a "heavenly one" rather than a "seperate" group of jesus followers with a seperate eternal residential destiny?.

moomanchu

I don't have the answer to your question, but I want that cash, so I'm blackmailing you with this picture of you and pokey. ( no need to ask why you named him that)

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Hmmm..So they claimed to be a prophet..yet this SCAN says they DON'T??

by Lady Liberty in

ok.. so..as i posted on a recent thread scans of many places the society claims to be a "prophet", see here:http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/122290/2160659/post.ashx#2160659.

notice this claim.. and note too that it was only 7 years before 1975:http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/aw10-8-68p23.htm.

and now look at what they wrote after the big 1975 let down:.

moomanchu

fjtoth,

Good illustration.

This is what is so difficult when faced with the the facts about jws.

You come to the realization that they are diametrically opposed to god.

They are actually helping Satan.

It's hard for me to write this and think about this right now, even after all these years.

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The JWs still blind to the implications of the 1995 generation change

by greendawn in

in 1995 the wts as time finally caught up with them, they had to yield to the inevitable and admit that its hitherto interpretation of the so called 1914 last generation was erroneous.

to all intents and purposes the end was indefinitely posrponed it could be centuries away according to the new explanation.

yet the r&f do not seem to realise these implications and are apparently suffering from collective blindness they still believe the end is as near as it was before 1995, just round the corner.

moomanchu

My favorite WT cover May 15, 1984

Ding Dong

Still took me about 3 years to get the flock out.

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Comments You Won't Hear at the 10-15-06 WT Study (PETITIONS)

by blondie in

www.reexamine.org (wt publications online).

"this, then, is how you should pray: " 'our father in heaven, hallowed be your name, .

nwt.

moomanchu

Notice that even the WTS is not bold enough to put in "Jehovah" in place of "Our Father" or "your name." Why is it that JWs address their prayers to "Jehovah" rather than the more intimate and loving address, "Father"? Is it considered respectful to call one’s father by his first name; does it indicate a more closer relationship?

Dub children shouldn't be allowed to call their parents mom and dad or father and mother, how disrespectful of them they should address them by their first name.

How many times was Jehovah's name used in prayer in the new testament by Jesus ar anyone else,

ummm 0 times.

I still can't remember anybody praying for spirit and truth or accurate prophesy .

Me either but then again no need to they have all the answers.

I remember prayers thanking Jehovah for the wonderful literature and the wonderful faithful and discreet slave and the wonderful watchtowers and their wonderful spiritual truths.

Thanks blondie for your long suffering in posting this.