i don't know if it is my imagination or what, but i've started to notice something odd in recent wts literature (besides all the other odd things): .
i am struggling to find any mention in recent watchtower articles and publications of jehovah being referred to as the "heavenly father" of jehovah's witnesses!
for example, in the upcoming october 22-28 watchtower study article entitled "your father is merciful" (quoting from luke 6:36), god is not once referred to as "heavenly father" throughout the entire article!
Good topic:
Almost started a topic about this to but I am too lazy.
I think I have read that the Society teaches that, technically, Jehovah is presently only a kind of grandfather to those with an earthly hope, and that only those of the 144,000 anointed class can strictly regard Him as their Heavenly Father.
Your not dreaming, I absolutely remember the grandfather reference to the earthly hope JW's. (might have been a talk though?)
Love to see a reference.
q7) although some are afraid to speak in public or to attend a meeting, how do they show endurance?.
q22, 23) of what can you be sure as you await jehovah's day with endurance?.
official encouragement comes from the pages of the wts publications such as this fine example.. how would you respond?.
Great review
"How happy I am to be among Jehovah's people and to have his unfailing support!"
So Jehovah's people are Jehovah.
Even after the meetings JWs are prone to discuss weather, traffic, friendly gossip--anything but what the meeting was actually about.
Absolutely true, active JW's try this and you will get the strangest reactions from people.
I did it one time at the book study, first people look at you like your crazy, and then they get pissed at you.
that pretty much says it all, but i just dont get why god so craves worship.
what is he really getting out of it???
but he wants it so much that if he can't get it, he will whack you out forever.. never felt like worshiping god but say thanks for great sunsets.....oompa.
But what mother or father, who is supposed to be loving, KILLS their children,
or their children's children, simply for being disobedient and imperfect?
Human parents are more forgiving. Human parents have a higher morality than god does, because killing is wrong.
Prove me wrong.
If my child were to become disobedient and disregard certain laws , like say murder. I woudn't be
posting bail or trying to repeal the death penalty.
I think worship has been ruined by organized religion, it is forced.
Remember at the meetings brothers and sisters commenting "oohhhhh, we don't have to go to the meetings we want to go".
rrrring rrrring "umm yes the meeting has been canceled because of inclimate weather" "oh, ok see you next meeting click"
Ya hooooooo yipeeeee a night off or aaaaahhhh lets stay up late and sleep in tommorrow.
The good old days.
my story is much like others.
i have found a faith to call my own, thankfully.
my parents don't agree with it, though they are very much still in my life, whether it's in my head or on the phone.
Joined the pack .
rumsfeld and bush charged with war crimes:.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-996663375727729030&q=rumsfeld+bush+war+crimes&total=49&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4264036356856850280&q=bush%27s+war+crimes&total=939&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2.
I think it would send a positive message to the world if they were put on public trial.
You know, I think you are right the radical muslims would really be upbeat if this would happen.
watch 74 p.167 "by disobediently overindulging in food and making a glutton of himself, he fails to show love for jehovah god...is food a big thing in his life?
if in the presents of others, does he selfishly ignore thier needs and take far more then his share?
is he grossly overweight but shows no restraint at all as to food, habitually gorging himself?
You can be, but you won't be.
My family doctor who I think was Jewish told me there were no fat people in the concentration camps.
I should lose about 20 pounds according to him.
onthewayout has a current thread about a slow fade, and i have read many others that are similar.
i do not understand how fading slowly vs. fading very quickly has any different consequences.
and i mean whether an elder or pioneer or not.
maybe if i stopped the contributions??......oompa
Why in the world are you still contributing? (money I assume)
i went to the hall last night to get an insight book and a concordance.
i had set it up with an elder ahead of time to get them.
i arrived after the meeting had ended, walked up to the counter anxious to leave as quickly as i came when a big brother came up to me, planted his body in between me and the literature servant and started giving me the third degree about who i am, what is my standing in the congregation, and what did i want the books for.
You apostates have been away from Jehovah's spiritual table for so long that you cannot see the signs of the end.
The new Watchtower and KM are signs that we are deep in the last days.
The door on the ark is slowly begining to close. Soon the organisation will not allow any worldly people to see any of it's life
saving spiritual truths. Then it will be too late!!!!
Come back to the kingdom hall now, before it is too late!!!!!
my wife is still on the inside.
sometimes i dont care about that or about the wtbts's nonsense.
and then some days, i wake up and i have all this anger inside.
What scripture did the dubs use to describe the burning in your heart to tell others about the truth?
I think we all have finally experienced what they were talking about.
believe it or not this was the very very begining of my demise as a dub.. i picked the simplest thing that dubs disagree with christians on and i thought surely i could come to a conclusion as to wether dubs were right or christendom was right.i wanted to start building my foundation of faith in them.. i can't believe they are still using this stupid illustration of the loved one murdered by the weapon illustration!.
idiots, jesus wasn't murdered he gave his life ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
they have this on their site.. http://www.watchtower.org/e/200604a/article_01.htm.
Agree with some replies, others not, will check some of the refs. thanks.
Another thought :
Jews built and kept (revered?) altars for sacrificing animals to God.
The cross is Jesus's altar he built to sacrificing himself, no?
What's wrong with having a replica of the altar where the ultimate sacrifice took place.
